Admin abuse |KT| UnknownError

[Legendahkiin]

Name of player reporting abuse: Legendahkiin

Steam ID, to facilitate unban if applicable: (Not banned, but STEAM_0:0:24997109)

Server: Trouble in Terrorist Town

Admin who is suspected of the abuse: |KT| UnknownError

In which server did the abuse occur?: TTT

What occurred, what did the abuse consist of: He unfairly slayed me.

What time and day did it happen (put down your time zone too): 25. March (Not sure what time)

Please link any evidence (videos, screen shots, etc.):

Here's the damage log from that round.
   *** Damage log:
   00:22.53 - DMG:     legoman337 [traitor] damaged The Spaniard [innocent] for 74 dmg
   00:24.36 - DMG:     legoman337 [traitor] damaged The Spaniard [innocent] for 28 dmg
   00:24.36 - KILL:    legoman337 [traitor] killed The Spaniard [innocent]
   00:29.79 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Edge_Blade [innocent] for 233 dmg
   00:29.79 - KILL:    DeadlyMagma [traitor] killed Edge_Blade [innocent]
   00:32.33 - DMG:     wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] damaged All of Haiti [detective] for 2000 dmg
   00:32.33 - KILL:    wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] killed All of Haiti [detective]
   00:34.12 - DMG:     (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent] damaged Lamb Neeson [innocent] for 6 dmg

(MDK) GriffinKings was firing bullets on the ship, from the boat.
I killed him for it, and I got slayed?

   00:43.52 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent] for 13 dmg
   00:44.15 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent] for 24 dmg
   00:45.39 - DMG:     Vanilla Love [detective] damaged (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent] for 28 dmg
   00:45.65 - SAMPLE:    ☾ℊ™Toxic Unknown retrieved DNA of wD. Bendylegs12 from corpse of All of Haiti
   00:45.92 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent] for 24 dmg
   00:48.77 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Fredfredburger [innocent] for 17 dmg
   00:49.28 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Fredfredburger [innocent] for 99 dmg
   00:49.28 - KILL:    Eos [traitor] killed Fredfredburger [innocent]
   00:54.41 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent] for 68 dmg
   00:54.41 - KILL:    Legendahkiin [innocent] killed (MDK) GriffinKings [innocent]
   01:05.09 - SAMPLE:    Vanilla Love retrieved DNA of wD. Bendylegs12 from corpse of All of Haiti
   01:15.73 - SAMPLE:    Energizer retrieved DNA of wD. Bendylegs12 from corpse of All of Haiti
   02:01.86 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 15 dmg
   02:01.95 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 15 dmg
   02:02.04 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 8 dmg
   02:02.22 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 8 dmg
   02:02.31 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 8 dmg
   02:02.40 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 8 dmg
   02:02.49 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 15 dmg
   02:02.58 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 15 dmg
   02:03.15 - DMG:     Energizer [detective] damaged wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor] for 8 dmg
   02:03.15 - KILL:    Energizer [detective] killed wD. Bendylegs12 [traitor]
   03:46.46 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Energizer [detective] for 21 dmg
   03:47.48 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Energizer [detective] for 12 dmg
   03:47.98 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged ☾ℊ™Toxic Unknown [innocent] for 17 dmg
   03:48.49 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged ☾ℊ™Toxic Unknown [innocent] for 30 dmg
   03:48.75 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged Eos [traitor] for 24 dmg
   03:48.90 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged Eos [traitor] for 24 dmg
   03:49.01 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged ☾ℊ™Toxic Unknown [innocent] for 17 dmg
   03:49.07 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged Eos [traitor] for 13 dmg
   03:49.76 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged Eos [traitor] for 13 dmg
   03:50.54 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Energizer [detective] for 21 dmg
   03:51.55 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Energizer [detective] for 21 dmg
   03:52.07 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged ☾ℊ™Toxic Unknown [innocent] for 99 dmg
   03:52.07 - KILL:    Eos [traitor] killed ☾ℊ™Toxic Unknown [innocent]
   03:52.58 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged Energizer [detective] for 12 dmg
   03:53.68 - DMG:     WITSorcery [innocent] damaged Energizer [detective] for 18 dmg
   03:53.68 - KILL:    WITSorcery [innocent] killed Energizer [detective]
   03:54.42 - DMG:     Katsu [innocent] damaged [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor] for 30 dmg
   03:54.71 - DMG:     Eos [traitor] damaged [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor] for 30 dmg
   03:54.91 - DMG:     WITSorcery [innocent] damaged Legendahkiin [innocent] for 25 dmg
   03:55.18 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged Eos [traitor] for 24 dmg
   03:55.18 - KILL:    Legendahkiin [innocent] killed Eos [traitor]

Here I was accused for RDM again, apparently I shot WITSorcery, and RDM'ed him.
Even though I didn't, this was also a part of the slay.

   03:56.68 - DMG:     WITSorcery [innocent] damaged [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor] for 14 dmg
   03:58.71 - DMG:     WITSorcery [innocent] damaged Legendahkiin [innocent] for 25 dmg
   03:59.15 - DMG:     WITSorcery [innocent] damaged Legendahkiin [innocent] for 25 dmg
   03:59.29 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged WITSorcery [innocent] for 25 dmg
   03:59.79 - DMG:     Legendahkiin [innocent] damaged WITSorcery [innocent] for 14 dmg
   04:00.12 - DMG:     WFloydBoy [innocent] damaged Legendahkiin [innocent] for 15 dmg
   04:00.12 - KILL:    WFloydBoy [innocent] killed Legendahkiin [innocent]
   04:05.15 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 6 dmg
   04:05.22 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 20 dmg
   04:05.97 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 6 dmg
   04:06.04 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 6 dmg
   04:06.27 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 12 dmg
   04:06.35 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 12 dmg
   04:06.49 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 6 dmg
   04:06.65 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Past. [innocent] for 12 dmg
   04:06.65 - KILL:    DeadlyMagma [traitor] killed Past. [innocent]
   04:58.56 - DMG:     Vanilla Love [detective] damaged WITSorcery [innocent] for 200 dmg
   04:58.56 - KILL:    Vanilla Love [detective] killed WITSorcery [innocent]
   06:58.18 - DMG:     legoman337 [traitor] damaged mjb627 [innocent] for 12 dmg
   06:58.73 - DMG:     mjb627 [innocent] damaged legoman337 [traitor] for 71 dmg
   06:58.73 - KILL:    mjb627 [innocent] killed legoman337 [traitor]
   07:00.00 - DMG:     Katsu [innocent] damaged sabfam1 [innocent] for 8 dmg
   07:00.45 - DMG:     Katsu [innocent] damaged sabfam1 [innocent] for 45 dmg
   07:00.72 - DMG:     Katsu [innocent] damaged sabfam1 [innocent] for 15 dmg
   07:00.81 - DMG:     Katsu [innocent] damaged sabfam1 [innocent] for 15 dmg
   07:00.99 - DMG:     Katsu [innocent] damaged sabfam1 [innocent] for 15 dmg
   07:00.99 - KILL:    Katsu [innocent] killed sabfam1 [innocent]
   07:01.44 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged ๖ۣۜSecret | ๖ۣۜSniperت [innocent] for 16 dmg
   07:24.72 - SAMPLE:    Vanilla Love retrieved DNA of Katsu from corpse of sabfam1
   07:27.27 - DMG:     [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor] damaged Katsu [innocent] for 2000 dmg
   07:27.27 - KILL:    [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor] killed Katsu [innocent]
   07:31.22 - DMG:     Lamb Neeson [innocent] damaged [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor] for 28 dmg
   07:31.22 - KILL:    Lamb Neeson [innocent] killed [RG] Toataly AWESOME! [traitor]
   07:40.20 - DMG:     DeadlyMagma [traitor] damaged Lamb Neeson [innocent] for 194 dmg
   07:40.20 - KILL:    DeadlyMagma [traitor] killed Lamb Neeson [innocent]
   07:41.50 - DMG:     Vanilla Love [detective] damaged DeadlyMagma [traitor] for 25 dmg
   07:47.25 - DMG:     Vanilla Love [detective] damaged DeadlyMagma [traitor] for 50 dmg
   07:51.36 - DMG:     mjb627 [innocent] damaged DeadlyMagma [traitor] for 23 dmg
   07:53.12 - DMG:     mjb627 [innocent] damaged DeadlyMagma [traitor] for 45 dmg
   07:53.12 - KILL:    mjb627 [innocent] killed DeadlyMagma [traitor]
   *** Damage log end.

Additional comments:

I killed Griffin for RDM.
Slayed for it.
I apparently RDM WITSorcery, but I didn't even hit him.
You can also see that he RDMs the Detective, Energizer.
Slayed for that too.
Also another little note, |KT| UnknownError didn't even bother asking me why I killed them, and instantly slayed me.

Vanilla Love: legend didnt rdm
Vanilla Love: dont slay
(Someone) slayed You

[UnknownError]

1. For future reference, you should take screenshots of damage logs if you want to make evidence. However just from a quick breeze through it and my recollection, this seems like it was untampered with.

2. I did repeatedly say over voice chat why you killed Griffins, and later did type out I did not slay you for Eos after you repeatedly spammed admin chat along with about 3 other people.

3. The slay was not involving Eos at all. I had just joined after I was called for by people on the servers. I was a little confused, but yes you killed Griffins for randomly shooting out the boat which is no longer T baiting. He had shot someone on accident, and you killed him for it. Griffins was not aiming for anyone, and it is my understanding there was no KOS.

4. The kill on WITSorcery was not part of slay, you killed him for self defense. I did not slay you for rdmx3 otherwise it would have been a 3 day ban.

[Old Crow]

Text logs are unacceptable. They are far to easy to modify.

You can also not kill for random shooting unless it falls under T baiting, which it did not. Please read the rules next time sir. The MOTD automatically pops up when you join, clicking ok on it means you have read the rules and must follow them.

Doesn't look like admin abuse at all.

[Jordan789]

Doubt it was abuse, maybe miscommunication between the admin and the player, where the player didnt see everything.

[(QC) Spell Bound]

Evidence isn't displayed appropriatly and like Unknown said, he didn't slay you for killing Witsorcery. So it's probably a communication problem that occured between you two.

[mjb627]

I was there at the time, it was not admin abuse.

[Blackllama]

If the evidence isn't good enough you could always check sever logs, but then again considering the admin involved agrees with the logs I do not see why people are even saying the evidence is an issue.

If he was just randomly shooting in a safe direcrtion he wouldn't have shot someone. I think he was fine to kill Griffin.

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

The text he posted is accurate, I just checked the server logs.

[UnknownError]

If the evidence isn't good enough you could always check sever logs, but then again considering the admin involved agrees with the logs I do not see why people are even saying the evidence is an issue.

If he was just randomly shooting in a safe direcrtion he wouldn't have shot someone. I think he was fine to kill Griffin.

Griffin was shooting out of the small boat on roytheship thinking that the glass was bulletproof. To my knowledge there was no kos on him at all.

[Old Crow]

If the evidence isn't good enough you could always check sever logs, but then again considering the admin involved agrees with the logs I do not see why people are even saying the evidence is an issue.

If he was just randomly shooting in a safe direcrtion he wouldn't have shot someone. I think he was fine to kill Griffin.

why ask for proper evidence? Its for professional courtesy, and its just too easy for people to modify them, even if he did not.

Too often do we see incomplete ban requests/admin abuse/ whatever. If players don't care to take the time to fill out these requests and follow rules, then why should we bother looking at them?

Also consider the rule change. We constantly have to tell people what T baiting is, because it is different on every server. That is why the MOTD exists. Very often people will come onto the server and kill people, then claim T baiting because they think the rules are the same here. Basically my point is this:

1)what weapon did Griffin use?
2)was there anybody on the small boat?
3)its still possible its RDM, because Griffin was killed under the assumption he was shooting people, instead of confirming that he indeed was.

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

If he was shooting at the glass thinking that it was bulletproof he was not traitor baiting. Plus if he was shooting it with a huge or shotgun there is no way he would have been able to rdm someone.

[Legendahkiin]

Basicly, he was on the 'boat' shooting out on the 'main boat'. He used a H.U.G.E.
He also threatened to RDM me, and a guy called Energizer, (Who was a Detective that round).
I'm pretty sure he was not even shooting any glass on the boat, but just shooting everywhere.
And when he joined, he kind of mic spammed too. (Luckily, he stopped. No proof.)
There was nobody else on the boat, than him.
I may not have heard Unknown say why he slayed me, but I constantly asked him, but I got no answer. He said "You RDM'ed", in chat, and I asked who.
I said why I killed whoever I killed, and I had no response.
I think that's all the questions asked, that I've responded to.

EDIT:
Also, to add, more people were RDM'ing, as Unknown came on. (He came on, in the middle of a round, I think).
A guy killed people for being 'hurt', and that annoyed me kind of.
Don't remember his name, no proof, once again.