Ban Appeal

[Lamp]

Who were you banned by: UnknownError

Why were you banned: Mass RDM

What server where you banned from: TTT

What date and/or time around were you banned: ~8:40 server time

Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:39254370

Your in game name: Gluten Free Batteries

Link to your steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038774469/

What Happened: I pushed someone off a roof before the round began, and they died after it began. Afterwards, I shot (but did not kill) someone for having a knife out. They were, in fact, a traitor. Admittedly, I did miss a few shots and hit Unknown, which may give the impression I was RDMing. GMod has a way of displaying a black screen when I get banned or kicked, so I don't know how long the ban is for -- sorry.

My appeal:
I. I pushed the person off 4 seconds before the round began, which means they would have covered roughly 78.5 meters. The building is approximately 43.4 meters tall. (I estimated the height of one player to be 6 feet, then stacked several file cabinets that were each about the same (a bit shorter) up until they reached the top.) Following this, I hold that the game defied the laws of physics and it wasn't my fault that he died after the round start.

II. Two kills (very nearly killed the traitor), one legitimate and the other physics-defying, plus maybe 20 accidental damage from missing my intended target, should not warrant a ban.

Furthermore, not 20 seconds after my death, someone ran into that same room and blew up an explosive barrel, killing innocents and traitors alike. Maybe I was confused with him?

Feel free to reply with questions, comments or insults.

[Lamp]

Oh, and I suppose it's somewhat important to mention that this was played on Rooftops - the one with the destructible bridges, not the one with the billboards.

[UnknownError]

1. He pushed HelloKitty knowingly off the map, there was no time for him to respawn.

2. On Rooftops there is a building where there is a closet, He shot both me and Nexus in the room, hitting me to wounded, and Nexus to near death. It was not a misclick but a spray of bullets.

3. There had been previous RDM during a one hour period, which was 2+ RDM per round. Such as on temple, there were slays given.

4. The reason is wrong, it should be Continuous RDM rather than Mass RDM.

[Lamp]

1. I've addressed that already, I believe. It was intentional that he die, but not that he die after the round began.

2. I didn't see you run inside; I only saw him. In my haste (the man had a knife, in an enclosed space) I shot you by reflex as I came around the corner.

3. I wasn't slain at all on temple. I played 3 rounds there, on one of which I killed nobody, on another I killed five as a traitor and on the last I don't quite recall. However, the fact that it was the last round should speak for itself. I was not slain.

4. In total, I'd RDMed maybe 2 people -- again, if you consider an accidental half-kill and a prop push RDM. I still maintain that the ban was unwarranted.

[Sniper no Sniping]

May I add that it is against the rules to kill Pre-round.

[Lamp]

Regarding my previous post: Nevermind, I remember the last round. I was shot, because HerpDerpMike got confused -- he thought I killed someone who in fact fell victim to the traitor trap. I retaliated and killed him. Ask him about it. As I was trying to explain that, Oobla attacked me, and I killed him too. Still, I was not slain.

@Sniper: Well, sorry. He was pushing me with a barrel, so I pushed him back and he fell off the ledge.

[Blackllama]

Could someone check the logs to see if he was slain, damage logs, etc. Just to generally clear this up?

[Lamp]

If I was slain, I was AFK at the time. Otherwise, no.

[UnknownError]

You must be mistaken, neither I nor Nexus had a knife, we entered the closet to get ammo, and you started to random spray us with your gun. We both had bough vintars, and did not pull them out.

I did have to slay you multiple times today.

[Lamp]

But not on Temple. Actually, I don't recall you slaying me at all today, but I may be mistaken.
And, if what you say is true, I'll accept responsibility. He may have had a shotgun or something similar that simply looks like a knife in the dark. He pulled it out while directly behind someone, though, which is what triggered my alarm.

[UnknownError]

But not on Temple.

Although I was on Temple, I did not give my full attention to the rounds, there were 2 other admins on and I usually zoomed out and focused on something else, they told me you rdmed on temple as well. Thus deserving of the perma ban.

[Lamp]

I explained what happened, and was going to explain it again when someone killed me. The first innocent was crushed by a door (spike room), and Herpderp thought I shot him, so he attacked me and I killed him in self defence. Oobla attacked me soon thereafter and I killed him too. Herpderp apologized, so if you'd like to ask him about it I don't have any reason to think he'd lie.

[Blackllama]

Wait, why was it a perma?

[Lamp]

And, does this mean I have to follow the permaban format?

[UnknownError]

Wait, why was it a perma?

Multiple Rounds of RDMx2. I apparently typed the wrong reason when I was writing it.