We need to clear something up.

[Kacey]

Trolling: You were literally talking about how you hate the server and its admins, and you only play because theres less rdm then normal.

how is that trolling?

It's not, and it's not correct either. I was talking about their was specific admins I disliked because they abused, aka caboose and yankees.

[Kacey]

If caboose really, banned you for a week for that, we have an issue. This should be an official abuse thread. Caboose generally doesn't go this far, and I have a lot of respect for him. I want the other side.

If I had evidence I would

[theyankees213]

Lets wait and see cabooses side. like i said, i could have missed it since i was dead at the time. If the logs show the warnings then there is an unban needed. I Trusted caboose. If i am wrong, i am sincerly sorry and will unban you personally if i can. I try to be fair and be nice to everyone and i am sad that you believe that im bad.

[Kacey]

Lets wait and see cabooses side. like i said, i could have missed it since i was dead at the time. If the logs show the warnings then there is an unban needed. I'm sorry epic if im wrong. I trusted caboose on this matter.

You did far more than trust caboose. You assisted him in harassing me throughout the night.

[theyankees213]

Once again, Im sorry if i did, though i dont think i harrased you. I told you to stop spamming twice i think. I am sorry if i hurt your feelings.

[Old Crow]

Alright everybody chill, I'm going to check the logs, and I'll get Caboose to post his side here

Epic: One thing concerns me and its your language. Do not let me see you using that word again on the server, you should know by now that is against the rules.

[Kacey]

Once again, Im sorry if i did, though i dont think i harrased you. I told you to stop spamming twice i think. I am sorry if i hurt your feelings.

Just forgot to point out earlier. The spam was the song lyric repeated twice and then a different one

Its okay Yankees but in the future don't just blindly go with the first thing you hear.

[caboose74]

ok epic we have a conversation for the second time 2 days ago , you said you would stop prop killing, everytime you're on the server you keep causing trouble

I didnt slay you for disrespect ,you were slay for rdming after you give my first warning, and start saying you'll shot me
you give some warning to taco , I start following you after you give your first  verbal warning to taco, you then give me my first warning and said both of u stop following me ( was my first warning , second for taco) you then said i'll shot you if you dont stop (was my second warning ) you then shot me at my second warning  , was that's was the reason of the slay next round

i would not care if you kill taco because you did give him 3 warning , you give me 2 warning , and by the same time cause your 3th rdm of the night

yankee explain most of the story why he was ban , you have multiple day of rdm /slay and keep saying i'm slaying you for no reason ( when you prop kill people, or make bad decision and killing someone on suspicion

[Kacey]

I am lying.in bed on my tablet and will type out my response to caboose when I get up tomorrow but I can give you the abridged.version now: bullshit, caboose.

[theyankees213]

I did not hear the verbal warning. I could see how there was confusion between the 2 of them. I think this could just be miscommunication. Since their was a confusion, i could agree upon the unban. I still disagree with some behavior, but the ban wasnt for the behavior. I am ok with an unban if needed due to miscommunication if logs show 2 text warnings.

[oobla37]

So we're waiting for logs. Fantastic.

[Tyber]

I didnt slay you for disrespect ,you were slay for rdming after you give my first warning, and start saying you'll shot me
you give some warning to taco , I start following you after you give your first  verbal warning to taco, you then give me my first warning and said both of u stop following me ( was my first warning , second for taco) you then said i'll shot you if you dont stop (was my second warning ) you then shot me at my second warning  , was that's was the reason of the slay next round

First off, ow, my brain hurts.

i would not care if you kill taco because you did give him 3 warning , you give me 2 warning , and by the same time cause your 3th rdm of the night

Edit: sorry Caboose, I misread the statement, but still, all that was was miscommunication, he didn't purposely rdm you (I don't think).

[Old Crow]

I am lying.in bed on my tablet and will type out my response to caboose when I get up tomorrow but I can give you the abridged.version now: bullshit, caboose.

Sir check the attitude at the door, we don't need any of that.

Caboose: This is what I have from logs:

L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:20: "(=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs<237><STEAM_0:1:24770504><Team>" say "This is your first warning. Stop following me."
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:23: "(=CG=) Wellrgr<181><STEAM_0:0:44507556><Team>" say_team "see"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:24: "nucleartaco631[=MMNB=]<226><STEAM_0:0:33254336><Team>" say "D:"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:29: "nucleartaco631[=MMNB=]<226><STEAM_0:0:33254336><Team>" say "<3"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:29: "(=CG=) Wellrgr<181><STEAM_0:0:44507556><Team>" say_team "yankees is sleeping.."
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:33: "TheYankees213<190><STEAM_0:0:42598347><Team>" say_team "i look tired"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:37: "(=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs<237><STEAM_0:1:24770504><Team>" say "Final warning. GTFO before I fucking shoot you."
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:39: "nucleartaco631[=MMNB=]<226><STEAM_0:0:33254336><Team>" say "<3"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:43: "(=CG=) Wellrgr<181><STEAM_0:0:44507556><Team>" say_team "you are taking a nap"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:44: 05:28.10 - DMG:     (=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs [detective] damaged Caboose74 [innocent] for 31 dmg
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:44: 05:28.10 - DMG:     (=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs [detective] damaged Caboose74 [innocent] for 31 dmg
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:45: 05:28.98 - DMG:     Caboose74 [innocent] damaged (=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs [detective] for 104 dmg
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:45: 05:28.98 - KILL:    Caboose74 [innocent] killed (=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs [detective]
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:46: "nucleartaco631[=MMNB=]<226><STEAM_0:0:33254336><Team>" say "DOIT"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:47: "TheYankees213<190><STEAM_0:0:42598347><Team>" say_team "yep"
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:53: "(=CG=) Wellrgr<181><STEAM_0:0:44507556><Team>" say_team "and i am going to sleep after killing my self.."
L 02/20/2013 - 23:38:58: "(=CG=) Wellrgr<181><STEAM_0:0:44507556><Team>" say_team "after i kill myself."
L 02/20/2013 - 23:39:03: 05:46.85 - DMG:     XxiTryMyHardestxX [innocent] damaged Caboose74 [innocent] for 22 dmg
L 02/20/2013 - 23:39:10: [ULX] (=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs to admins: I GAVE YOU THREE FUCKING WARNINGS

Looks like he only gave two warnings. Of course if somebody can tell me if anything was verbal that would help as well. What I am more interested in is that you (Caboose) fired back at a detective as an inno, when your an admin. Also if your getting warnings for not following, you probably shouldn't do it unless your A: a traitor or B: know the person WELL and just want to screw with them like if I were to do it to Blackllama.

Warnings do apply for everybody, not just one person. Epic even pointed this out to you.

L 02/20/2013 - 23:39:41: [ULX] (=CG=) Epic, King of the Noobs to admins: Text binds apply to everyone following me at the time. ALSO, admins have said that you can't shoot back if shot for following

Caboose, I do not like what I see. This doesn't look like RDM to me. Seems like from some of the chatter in logs Epic was prop killing, but you never slayed him for it, so it must have been accidental or you guys gave him verbal warnings, because I don't see any text warnings or previous slays. Banning him seems like it was uncalled for unless there is more evidence to support the ban.

[caboose74]

yankee told me he prop kill twice tonight and if i remember he was slay on wintermansion by yankee

yes i did shot him back because i had only 2 warning on me , i wasnt following him when he use the text warning , and tbh it's the first time i hear you cant shot someone back because you're following

I did kill a detective but it was self defense

if you would have extend the dmg log you would also see taco saying he only give me 2 warning
and yes i did slay him (not tonight) but multiple time  for prop killing

[emotional disorder]

epic did give one(1) verbal warning inbetween the two text ones