The Vintar nerf and why you should all shut up about it

[oobla37]

That sounds waaaaay to complicated, plus a sniper should always be a 1 shot kill to the head. Also, I'm beginning to think the huge might be a tad too good.

The glock is fantastic now. No idea why. It's like a mini ak47.

[Pillz]

LET'S GET A SCOPED MAGNUM FOR DETECTIVES.

[๖ۣۜNexus]

I like the detective sniper the way it is, though if really needs something special why not traker bullets? When a detective shoots someone with it they leave a trail for an amount of seconds equal to the damage done?

That's a decent idea, but that might be a little ridiculous.

Couple of ideas:  5 shots, slow fire rate, high recoil, high damage, but with armor piercing rounds, so it is more effective against body armor - 2-3 headshot kill but disguise is removed on headshot - 2-3 headshot kill, 20 shots, fired slightly slower than M16, but with tracer rounds like above (we could use the hunter flechetes as the model for this) - Fires flechetes that do residual damage over 5 secs on top of  on hit, weaker, slower fire rate, ~10 shots - 5 shots, does more damage the further away the target is (to make it useless at close quarters to prevent the old style of vintaring, as well as add another factor to it - at a certain distance, it would max out at a 90 damage body shot like the big bertha), multiple zoom levels like binoculars

All dat coding

[Christovski]

A wise man once said: "Less QQ, more pewpew"

[Tendovvi]

Please Tower atleast change the accuracy of the Vintar back to what it was :|

[Blackllama]

Please Tower atleast change the accuracy of the Vintar back to what it was :|

I think it's fine. Find a scout and use it if you want best accuracy. It's a trade off. The vintar lets you be hidden (more or less), while the scout offers more accurate shots, but reveals your location (more or less).

[Prince LunaShy]

-snip for greater justice-
All dat coding

I think the scoped M16 idea is the best one, as in CS:S that's what it actually does. The tracers are optional. The disguise removing headshot would probably be pretty easy to code - It would see the value of ttt_toggledisguise (or whatever it is), and if it is <0, it sets it to 0. If it is less than or equal to 0, nothing happens. I'm not sure if ULX does weapon stripping, but you could use that on them to get rid of the disguise kit.

[Pillz]

Please Tower atleast change the accuracy of the Vintar back to what it was :|

I think it's fine. Find a scout and use it if you want best accuracy. It's a trade off. The vintar lets you be hidden (more or less), while the scout offers more accurate shots, but reveals your location (more or less).

The only thing I want to change is the sound it makes from less of a "Tink" sound to something else just to mess with people; find and add a new sound file for the shot and maybe make it a tad quieter than the current "EXTREMELY NOISY" vintar and bam everyone's happy except Tendovvi and that's okay. Now his T videos will be funner to watch. :p I agree in keeping the accuracy in it's current state; aren't silenced weapons a bit less accurate than when unsilenced? Meh

[Prince LunaShy]

Please Tower atleast change the accuracy of the Vintar back to what it was :|

I think it's fine. Find a scout and use it if you want best accuracy. It's a trade off. The vintar lets you be hidden (more or less), while the scout offers more accurate shots, but reveals your location (more or less).

The only thing I want to change is the sound it makes from less of a PING to something else just to mess with people; maybe make it a tad quieter than the current "EXTREMELY NOISY" vintar and bam everyone's happy except Tendovvi and that's okay. Now his T videos will be funner to watch.

Exactly. Just make it use the silenced pistol sound, and then problem solved.

[Pillz]

Please Tower atleast change the accuracy of the Vintar back to what it was :|

I think it's fine. Find a scout and use it if you want best accuracy. It's a trade off. The vintar lets you be hidden (more or less), while the scout offers more accurate shots, but reveals your location (more or less).

The only thing I want to change is the sound it makes from less of a PING to something else just to mess with people; maybe make it a tad quieter than the current "EXTREMELY NOISY" vintar and bam everyone's happy except Tendovvi and that's okay. Now his T videos will be funner to watch.

Exactly. Just make it use the silenced pistol sound, and then problem solved.

It's not a pistol though it shouldn't have the same sound, but eh it's not like realism really matters..

When you fire most pistol's at the firing range they simply just make a loud pop sound, when you fire a rifle or a .50 Deagle there's a deafening BANG sound when fired. I realize it probably sounds like the actual vintor or a similar silenced gun but I'd just find a new lower pitched sound more attractive to the idea of sacrificing your accuracy and clip size for a "Silencer".

[Prince LunaShy]

-super snip-
It's not a pistol though it shouldn't have the same sound, but eh it's not like realism really matters..

When you fire most pistol's at the firing range they simply just make a loud pop sound, when you fire a rifle or a .50 Deagle there's a deafening BANG sound when fired. I realize it probably sounds like the actual vintor or a similar silenced gun but I'd just find a new lower pitched sound more attractive to the idea of sacrificing your accuracy and clip size for a "Silencer".

Yeah - I meant that as a temporary thing, until we get a better silenced sound. It's just because of why you buy a silenced sniper - you want to kill people silently.

[Pillz]

-super snip-
It's not a pistol though it shouldn't have the same sound, but eh it's not like realism really matters..

When you fire most pistol's at the firing range they simply just make a loud pop sound, when you fire a rifle or a .50 Deagle there's a deafening BANG sound when fired. I realize it probably sounds like the actual vintor or a similar silenced gun but I'd just find a new lower pitched sound more attractive to the idea of sacrificing your accuracy and clip size for a "Silencer".

Yeah - I meant that as a temporary thing, until we get a better silenced sound. It's just because of why you buy a silenced sniper - you want to kill people silently.

I still don't think anyone should ever expect silence from a gun, and I'm really fine with the way it is now I just think it'd be a good idea to appease people by making it a bit quieter. You know how you avoid the issue with the minor sound it creates? Create distractions, or wait for people to use the mic; etc. Level's need more ambiance in them IMO like canyon is just SILENT the entire time and I feel like I'm going insane if I don't have music on.

[Kwaurtz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10t5s7ViyO4


If you guys want I can extract the gun sound from this.

[Prince LunaShy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10t5s7ViyO4


If you guys want I can extract the gun sound from this.

not high enough quality, methinks.

[Prince LunaShy]

http://gs.bel-net.ru/cs/download/sound/weapons/m4a1-1.wav
this one might be good. We'd cut off the shell falling, of course.