The Vintar nerf and why you should all shut up about it

[๖ۣۜNexus]

I think you guys are a little too quick to freak out. The ak, like most of the guns in ttt, is a two shot kill to the head and is pretty rapeass at close range, like most guns in ttt. The vintorez, like the scout, is one shot at any range plus it's quiter and shoots faster than the scout not to mention if you ever get close you can always use your hand cannon to take people down.

But you say it as if anyone can shoot it when not everybody can. Only a small fraction of people can use the vintar at such close range when faced against an automatic such as the mac-10. I feel like aiming was taken out of this as many people don't use the vintar and get 7+ hs per game, yet there is still a nerf that is really only affecting the people who are using it and its victims.

[Dante]

I just used the vintar, I wish the recoil was A little less though, everything else is fine.

[Leetgrain]

It's supposed to be a bloody sniper rifle, use it as one.

[Tendovvi]

It's supposed to be a bloody sniper rifle, use it as one.

It's a game, you should be able to use it as not one too :D:D:D:D:D

Also scout can still be used like the old vintar, makes no sense?

[theyankees213]

so much arguing over a dam game......

[Blackllama]

It's supposed to be a bloody sniper rifle, use it as one.

It's a game, you should be able to use it as not one too :D:D:D:D:D

Also scout can still be used like the old vintar, makes no sense?

The scout's fire rate isn't nearly as fast as the old vintar.

[Justice]

For god's sake... You do realize that the Vintar is STILL a 7 slot sniper?

A CONCEALED WEAPON! USEFUL! HELLO!?!

[Prince LunaShy]

Here's how the Vintar is better than the scout -

PROS:
- faster fire rate
- less recoil
- much more quite
- Is put in slot 7, meaning you can have another weapon like the MAC-10 for close quarters
- Can be quickly switched out, shot, and switched back for a kill in a group
- Better at close quarters than scout
- Damn sexy

CONS
- Scout has a larger magazine size
- Scout reloads slightly faster
- Carries 5 less shots than the scout
- Can't carry c4, flare gun, AK, etc. whilst carrying it
- Slightly lower damage on a body shot

In short, it's still better. Maybe we should just give it the sound of a silenced pistol, so it's actually hard to hear, does that sound like a good idea? I personally prefer the flare gun, but it is still part of the arsenal. If it was really quite, it would be worth buying more.

[TowerSheep]

Here's how the Vintar is better than the scout -

PROS:
- faster fire rate
- less recoil
- much more quite
- Is put in slot 7, meaning you can have another weapon like the MAC-10 for close quarters
- Can be quickly switched out, shot, and switched back for a kill in a group
- Better at close quarters than scout
- Damn sexy

CONS
- Scout has a larger magazine size
- Scout reloads slightly faster
- Carries 5 less shots than the scout
- Can't carry c4, flare gun, AK, etc. whilst carrying it
- Slightly lower damage on a body shot

In short, it's still better. Maybe we should just give it the sound of a silenced pistol, so it's actually hard to hear, does that sound like a good idea? I personally prefer the flare gun, but it is still part of the arsenal. If it was really quite, it would be worth buying more.

Thank you. Someone has it right!

[Prince LunaShy]

Thank you. Someone has it right!

Also, if we nerf the vintar, we should nerf that det. sniper as well.

[TowerSheep]

Thank you. Someone has it right!

Also, if we nerf the vintar, we should nerf that det. sniper as well.

I will find a way to make it useful but different from the scout/vintar

[Prince LunaShy]

Thank you. Someone has it right!

Also, if we nerf the vintar, we should nerf that det. sniper as well.

I will find a way to make it useful but different from the scout/vintar

Maybe make if like a buffed SG552? 15 shots, faster fire rate, lower dmg, 1-2 headshot kill?

[Dante]

I like the detective sniper the way it is, though if really needs something special why not traker bullets? When a detective shoots someone with it they leave a trail for an amount of seconds equal to the damage done?

[Prince LunaShy]

I like the detective sniper the way it is, though if really needs something special why not traker bullets? When a detective shoots someone with it they leave a trail for an amount of seconds equal to the damage done?

That's a decent idea, but that might be a little ridiculous.

Couple of ideas:  5 shots, slow fire rate, high recoil, high damage, but with armor piercing rounds, so it is more effective against body armor - 2-3 headshot kill but disguise is removed on headshot - 2-3 headshot kill, 20 shots, fired slightly slower than M16, but with tracer rounds like above (we could use the hunter flechetes as the model for this) - Fires flechetes that do residual damage over 5 secs on top of  on hit, weaker, slower fire rate, ~10 shots - 5 shots, does more damage the further away the target is (to make it useless at close quarters to prevent the old style of vintaring, as well as add another factor to it - at a certain distance, it would max out at a 90 damage body shot like the big bertha), multiple zoom levels like binoculars

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

That sounds waaaaay to complicated, plus a sniper should always be a 1 shot kill to the head. Also, I'm beginning to think the huge might be a tad too good.