The Vintar nerf and why you should all shut up about it

[Blackllama]

Ah but Dante you forget. As a D you are a prime target, so the frenchie helps to balance that out, same goes for the T's AK, it gives him some firepower. The difference is they are not op, they are balanced. The vintar was slightly OP, especially in the sense it was both a long range and CQB weapon. Why would a sniper be a CQB weapon?? The fenchie isn't a long range weeapn.

And why do you suggest that the AK is not OP?

It's horridly inaccurate.

[Dante]

And Because it is practically useless long range, and close risks deagle hs and the French.

[๖ۣۜNexus]

Ah but Dante you forget. As a D you are a prime target, so the frenchie helps to balance that out, same goes for the T's AK, it gives him some firepower. The difference is they are not op, they are balanced. The vintar was slightly OP, especially in the sense it was both a long range and CQB weapon. Why would a sniper be a CQB weapon?? The fenchie isn't a long range weeapn.

And why do you suggest that the AK is not OP?

It's horridly inaccurate.

It's only inaccurate if you use it in such a way to where it IS inaccurate; a high rate of fire and 30 bullet clipped gun with only 2 shot-headshot lethal capabilities is OP. You can also buy an infinite amount of it and it can be used at long range to if you use it correctly.

[IsYn Wooley]

I always found it funny that the model for the Vintar is one of the worst fucking sniper rifles in existence IRL. Yet it was so damn OP in the right hands.

I agree that a sniper should not be a CQB weapon.

Keep it as it is...leave my fuckin MAC10 alone -_-

-Wooley

[Blackllama]

Ah but Dante you forget. As a D you are a prime target, so the frenchie helps to balance that out, same goes for the T's AK, it gives him some firepower. The difference is they are not op, they are balanced. The vintar was slightly OP, especially in the sense it was both a long range and CQB weapon. Why would a sniper be a CQB weapon?? The fenchie isn't a long range weeapn.

And why do you suggest that the AK is not OP?

It's horridly inaccurate.

It's only inaccurate if you use it in such a way to where it IS inaccurate; a high rate of fire and 30 bullet clipped gun with only 2 shot-headshot lethal capabilities is OP. You can also buy an infinite amount of it and it can be used at long range to if you use it correctly.

What do you mean you can buy an infinite amount of it? Even if you aim down site you still don't get very good accuracy. Very hard to headshot with at medium range.

[๖ۣۜNexus]

Ah but Dante you forget. As a D you are a prime target, so the frenchie helps to balance that out, same goes for the T's AK, it gives him some firepower. The difference is they are not op, they are balanced. The vintar was slightly OP, especially in the sense it was both a long range and CQB weapon. Why would a sniper be a CQB weapon?? The fenchie isn't a long range weeapn.

And why do you suggest that the AK is not OP?

It's horridly inaccurate.

It's only inaccurate if you use it in such a way to where it IS inaccurate; a high rate of fire and 30 bullet clipped gun with only 2 shot-headshot lethal capabilities is OP. You can also buy an infinite amount of it and it can be used at long range to if you use it correctly.

What do you mean you can buy an infinite amount of it? Even if you aim down site you still don't get very good accuracy. Very hard to headshot with at medium range.

If you single or burst fire you can make a fairly good distance with it. If you run out of ammo, you can throw down the AK and buy a new one with full ammo.

[Blackllama]

Ah but Dante you forget. As a D you are a prime target, so the frenchie helps to balance that out, same goes for the T's AK, it gives him some firepower. The difference is they are not op, they are balanced. The vintar was slightly OP, especially in the sense it was both a long range and CQB weapon. Why would a sniper be a CQB weapon?? The fenchie isn't a long range weeapn.

And why do you suggest that the AK is not OP?

It's horridly inaccurate.

It's only inaccurate if you use it in such a way to where it IS inaccurate; a high rate of fire and 30 bullet clipped gun with only 2 shot-headshot lethal capabilities is OP. You can also buy an infinite amount of it and it can be used at long range to if you use it correctly.

What do you mean you can buy an infinite amount of it? Even if you aim down site you still don't get very good accuracy. Very hard to headshot with at medium range.

If you single or burst fire you can make a fairly good distance with it. If you run out of ammo, you can throw down the AK and buy a new one with full ammo.

That's not infinite.

[๖ۣۜNexus]

Ah but Dante you forget. As a D you are a prime target, so the frenchie helps to balance that out, same goes for the T's AK, it gives him some firepower. The difference is they are not op, they are balanced. The vintar was slightly OP, especially in the sense it was both a long range and CQB weapon. Why would a sniper be a CQB weapon?? The fenchie isn't a long range weeapn.

And why do you suggest that the AK is not OP?

It's horridly inaccurate.

It's only inaccurate if you use it in such a way to where it IS inaccurate; a high rate of fire and 30 bullet clipped gun with only 2 shot-headshot lethal capabilities is OP. You can also buy an infinite amount of it and it can be used at long range to if you use it correctly.

What do you mean you can buy an infinite amount of it? Even if you aim down site you still don't get very good accuracy. Very hard to headshot with at medium range.

If you single or burst fire you can make a fairly good distance with it. If you run out of ammo, you can throw down the AK and buy a new one with full ammo.

That's not infinite.

How? You can buy as many as you want without limit. Unless you're trying to rephrase in the meaning I am trying to say in which I will reword it: Unlike the vintar, if you run out of ammo you can throw the current weapon away and rebuy it with more ammo without there being any cap or limit to stop you from buying as many as you want. Only at the expense for a few seconds which is less than it takes to buy ammo.

[Blackllama]

How? You can buy as many as you want without limit. Unless you're trying to rephrase in the meaning I am trying to say in which I will reword it: Unlike the vintar, if you run out of ammo you can throw the current weapon away and rebuy it with more ammo without there being any cap or limit to stop you from buying as many as you want. Only at the expense for a few seconds which is less than it takes to buy ammo.

Can't you do that with the vintar?

Anyway, the point is you don't have an infinite amount of credits.

[Old Crow]

The sound alone gives the shooter of an AK away, hence it is balanced, plus what llama said.

[Inject OH 4]

To be fair I still hate the new YouTube layout and its been like 3 months.

WHAT?! Relevant?

[Blackllama]

To be fair I still hate the new YouTube layout and its been like 3 months.

WHAT?! Relevant?

Someone used it as an analogy earlier, might've been in the OP, don't know.

[๖ۣۜNexus]

How? You can buy as many as you want without limit. Unless you're trying to rephrase in the meaning I am trying to say in which I will reword it: Unlike the vintar, if you run out of ammo you can throw the current weapon away and rebuy it with more ammo without there being any cap or limit to stop you from buying as many as you want. Only at the expense for a few seconds which is less than it takes to buy ammo.

Can't you do that with the vintar?

Anyway, the point is you don't have an infinite amount of credits.

No, the vintar is a one buy only weapon.With the AK, if used wisely, a traitor can get 1+ credit with each vintar, not to mention other t kills getting you even more or picking up credits.

The sound alone gives the shooter of an AK away, hence it is balanced, plus what llama said.

This can be said with the vintar too. It has a very distinguishable sound and many are able to hear it. This is problematic on small maps as once you hear a vintar, you will be in the same position as you could have been with an AK; and since the majority of the maps have people in such compact groups in such little range of eachother, the "stealthiness" of the vintar is near-nullified due to its, as said before, distinguishable sound.

Anyway the vintar's current nerf is a large leap from what it originally was and most of us are not willing to accept it in such little time. Though I still stand by my thought that it is now a weapon that is not worth a credit and it should be reset to the original state or buffed to a reasonable extent that is not as horrid as it currently is.

[Blackllama]

How? You can buy as many as you want without limit. Unless you're trying to rephrase in the meaning I am trying to say in which I will reword it: Unlike the vintar, if you run out of ammo you can throw the current weapon away and rebuy it with more ammo without there being any cap or limit to stop you from buying as many as you want. Only at the expense for a few seconds which is less than it takes to buy ammo.

Can't you do that with the vintar?

Anyway, the point is you don't have an infinite amount of credits.

No, the vintar is a one buy only weapon.With the AK, if used wisely, a traitor can get 1+ credit with each vintar, not to mention other t kills getting you even more or picking up credits.

The sound alone gives the shooter of an AK away, hence it is balanced, plus what llama said.

This can be said with the vintar too. It has a very distinguishable sound and many are able to hear it. This is problematic on small maps as once you hear a vintar, you will be in the same position as you could have been with an AK; and since the majority of the maps have people in such compact groups in such little range of eachother, the "stealthiness" of the vintar is near-nullified due to its, as said before, distinguishable sound.

Anyway the vintar's current nerf is a large leap from what it originally was and most of us are not willing to accept it in such little time. Though I still stand by my thought that it is now a weapon that is not worth a credit and it should be reset to the original state or buffed to a reasonable extent that is not as horrid as it currently is.

Well, I'm glad to here you don't think the vintar works in the same position as an AK would work, because it shouldn't. The vintar is meant for long range.

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

I think you guys are a little too quick to freak out. The ak, like most of the guns in ttt, is a two shot kill to the head and is pretty rapeass at close range, like most guns in ttt. The vintorez, like the scout, is one shot at any range plus it's quiter and shoots faster than the scout not to mention if you ever get close you can always use your hand cannon to take people down.