People we let in with no appeal based on the fact they were banned by WG:
Crypto - Massive troll who i've never seen as someone who is pleasant to play with. All he does is complain when things aren't his way.
Based on the fact that he was always a welcome contribution to the community in a number of ways. Of course, he had his share of thorns, like we all do, and he would prick people with them with a more consistent regularity.
I've known Crypto for the longest time now and I can say from experience that he does far more than troll and complain. He is a smart guy, with a sharp sense of humor, who I've had the pleasure of playing with on numerous occasions. I do not, by any means, deny that he had his moments. And he was punished for them. By CL and wide community consensus, he was unbanned. I feel as this isn't something that should be pursued any further, at least not in a thread concerning Rebel Master's offenses specifically.
People we are debating
Rebel/Snak - A causal troll who does take it too far some times. The worst thing I'VE SEEN him do it yell at admins when they didn't answer why he was muted/gagged. I'm not saying his innocent by any standard.
I will have to agree with you on some respects. CG has been on a more tolerant streak, by allowing Kwartz and Crypto back. However, I do not believe we should go haywire with it. Limits must be set, somewhere, otherwise we give off the impression, as a community, that everything is permitted.
I was around when Rebel Master trolled and was promptly banned. He was a rather obnoxious person, with a certain preponderance to angry outbursts. He was pbanned multiple times, and for good reason.
That said, people change. They do. And I am honestly willing to believe that Rebel Master is no longer as he was and that he can participate in our community without inciting the anger of all those around him. Should this be the case, I would agree to seeing him unbanned on the forums, but with a single condition: He would be classed as a Watched member on the forums and kept a close eye on. If his behavior should attest to his change, then he could remain as he was before, a regular member. If that should not be the case, his new ban would be permanent and irrevocable.
In the case that his unban request on the forums should be denied, I would suggest for his ban to extend to the servers as well. I do not think a community ban duality would work, and it would be logically insulting.
This is my personal opinion on the matter.
Oh yeah, I told him that he could get around the forum ban (i won't write it here for obvious reasons) but he refused.
Regardless of the ultimate intent of the user, nobody (specially an admin) should give information to a banned member on how to backdoor the ban.