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Offline Pillz

Fourth Dimension
« on: April 22, 2012, 06:32:40 AM »
I want everyone to explain to me their understanding of the fourth dimension. Is it something we exist inside? Is time the fourth dimension? What research could be done, and what out there have you already read? Theories? I feel like everyone has a different idea of what the fourth dimension "is"..

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Offline Hair Slut

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 07:09:54 AM »
you enter the 4th dimension when asleep and its amazing and stuff.

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Re: Fourth Dimension
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Offline Cadaver

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 09:44:25 AM »
Isnt 4D time?

Offline Sprite

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 10:15:14 AM »
The 4th dimension is time/space. It is a very confusing concept but I find it fascinating when I can understand it. The only thing that I can remember at this time is that time and space are relative. So the speed of light is the same for all observers but this is where you get into time travel. If your able to somehow go faster the the speed of light for about a year and then return to earth you would have aged 1 year while the rest of us aged 60 or 70 years. It is so much more complicated then that but that's all I got.



Offline arth987

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 10:33:24 AM »
i don't know if this is realities and its also one of the conspiracies but apparently Albert Einstein learned how to tear into a different dimension ( possibly 4th ) where any possibility could happen but it had to be realistic. One of these was Time travel. Or some shit i could be getting the wrong any who.. The Nazi party later learned of this and put it to use.. They developed the Bell which was supposed to be a time travel device.. So on.. Shit got real.. Anyway they then tested the machine " Bell " with 4 Nazi honor guards and it did for a brief moment tear through the dimension but then it was shot back into ours and teleporting from Germany and later appearing in Roswell new mexico.. The men inside were turned inside out. This all sounds weird i know but it would be cool if it were true.

Offline Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 11:08:25 AM »
I was going to try and explain it but then I started trying to explain "gravity" and realised that most of you wouldn't understand so I'm going to give you a wiki link on Spacetime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
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Offline arth987

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 11:20:58 AM »
didnt you learn anything NEVAR TRUST TEH WIKI  Meme4

Offline Jorgen

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 12:06:18 PM »
The forth dimension is pretty much decided as time, so the question itself is somewhat mute.
However explaining time as a dimension would be hard as fuck, because as far as I know time is only the human perception of light (information) traveling by a  speed of 3*10^8 m/s which is C in the well known Einsteins theory of relativity Eo=MC^2, and then light curves at the end of the universe.
By the way I think I should mention that Einstein is the one who started thinking if I sit on light nothing could go faster than me, considering as far as we know we would become energy/light if we did so. So that being said, don't think Einstein was much of a believer in time travel.

Oh well I didn't have physics for so long...

As for the possibility of more dimensions, there are a lot of theories that are somewhat backed by logic that basically require the existence of more dimensions. One of those would obviously be string theory. 

Offline arth987

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 12:33:15 PM »
What he said.

Offline Andredem

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 01:32:57 PM »
I can see what Jorgen said is somewhat valid, however if we are talking movie theaters here pretty soon our seats will be applied to the motion of what's on screen, and there could be more physical addons like wind/air, water, etc..
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Offline Jorgen

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2012, 02:22:33 PM »
Well movies and cinemas are kinda different. Commercial dimensions is vastly different than those we talk about in physics, in fact you could make the argument that time goes by in a movie so every "2d" movie would be "3D" and every "3D" movie would be"4D".
Then what you are talking about would be some sort of weird hypothetical "5D", although it is more like a side effect of all the other dimensions (irl).

Offline Sniper no Sniping

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 03:08:24 PM »
The 4th Dimension is the Dimension 3 Dimensions away from the 1st Dimension. Not related to the 4th Wall.

Offline Pillz

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2012, 03:17:04 PM »
Well, what exactly IS time. For a while I was confused and believed time was simply a human creation to measure what has happened and what wll happen. Kind of like inches and pounds. Those measurements change from country to country, becoming more universal as we expand and communicate with another. Though time has always just been, we've all agreed on the same calanders and clocks. The reason I bring this up is because when one is traveling at the speed of light or just traveling in space; time is kind of different for them so to speak.

Also, if humans ever entered the fourth dimension, how would we travel, look and percieve things. I kind of always imagined it being everywhere you once were, are and will be all at once, kind of like becoming a sentient string of yourself.. but would t be a physical existence? Perhaps it's physical impossible altogether; or just inconcivable..
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Offline Jorgen

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2012, 03:29:12 PM »
@Pillz gotta say I love when people don't read answers on their own debate thread.

Time is a human beings perception of light moving at a constant speed of C (3*10^8 m/s (meters not miles)) to all directions, eventually they get curved at the "end" of the universe.
Entering the fourth dimension is impossible to imagine, basically because it simply exists. It would be like imagining a 1 dimensional entity, how can something only travel one direction? even a line like - has 2 dimensions up/down and forward/backwards, how can something be 100% flat, would that not just nonexistence?
Also going faster than light is physically impossible because as far as we know in modern day physics if you travel at the speed of light you become light/energy basically derived from Einsteins theory of relativity. If you have become light/energy how can you propel yourself in a speed that goes faster?

written in a hurry which means it could be somewhat badly worded.

Offline Sprite

Re: Fourth Dimension
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2012, 03:30:53 PM »
Well, what exactly IS time. For a while I was confused and believed time was simply a human creation to measure what has happened and what wll happen. Kind of like inches and pounds. Those measurements change from country to country, becoming more universal as we expand and communicate with another. Though time has always just been, we've all agreed on the same calanders and clocks. The reason I bring this up is because when one is traveling at the speed of light or just traveling in space; time is kind of different for them so to speak.

Also, if humans ever entered the fourth dimension, how would we travel, look and percieve things. I kind of always imagined it being everywhere you once were, are and will be all at once, kind of like becoming a sentient string of yourself.. but would t be a physical existence? Perhaps it's physical impossible altogether; or just inconcivable..

Well technically we are in a way in the fourth dimension since it is time and space. Physically at this point in time we really can't control how fast we go enough to effect things like I was saying early with time and space is relative. The closest thing to the 4d is a blackhole  which sucks in light and everything else so if we were able to move around in a black-hole (theoretically since it would completely rip you apart upon getting anywhere near it) you would be moving at such a higher speed then anyone else so you would age slower but not sure how much that helped.



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Re: Fourth Dimension
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