Masked Mania

[Inject OH 4]

Before you read the following keep in mind I have little knowledge on the issue and am just stating a few things these are all subject to change and are based of the little information I have received about this issue





1.  what was his exact punishment (banned from what? and for how long?)
2. what was he punished for (list all reasons and if they are not good reasons im going to start an appeal process)
3. If he is banned for x amount of time and it correlates with his offense than I am fine
4. If this is a perma ban from cg (dont think it is?) than it is a dramatic overreaction if you ask me
5. Whether we are going about investigating into corruption within cg leadership we can all at least agree this was unprofessionally done (call them how I see them)
6.  I agree razer is a very negative person at times and can be an ass whether he means to or not
7. I would like to speak with a few CL's on the matter in a locked channel
8.  CG protocal states that YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DELETE THREADS FOR THIS EXACT REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
move them to the rubbish bin so we at least have evidence if any exists.
9.  If he said fuck you on mc ban him on mc his ban should not carry over to the forums unless he broke a specific rule on the forums (he probably was trolling hard so that is not a main point)
10. This could be done much better
@inject calling your own community mentally challenged is probably not a smart thing to say
@ blackllama thank you for at least bringing this topic up for Razer so we can at least discuss it

11. I want to see cadavers decision on the issue


honestly I lean more towards Inject on this issue but I do have a few things I don't like that happened on the leadership side and think need to be worked on and discussed to prevent issues in the future

it also seems every CL seems to be in somewhat of an agreement over this issue

1. I never called the community challanged.
2. Please read all post previous to your own before posting or else it makes you look stupid.
3. It was a 7 day ban
4. Nothing unprofessional about it.
5. CG protocol never said that (cause we don't have one -_-) but they did go to the rubbish bin regardless.
6. He broke rules on the forums
7. This couldn't have been done any better. If your wondering why people are freaking it's because they have a massive quantity built up of testosterone. Nothing I am able to fix.
8. Cadavers already talked about it in ventrilo.


It's rather annoying at that members of CG consistently try to cause drama. I'm not apologizing for anything I haven't done.

[Pillz]

I was on the minecraft server at the time, miraculously. Razer was literally asking to get banned. It seemed like he was mad they wouldn't reset it, telling Inject he has no reason to reset it, Inject replied like "What do you have Down syndrome? I have like 9 hours on the server, maybe I have shit I worked for I don't want to lose retard-" or something similar, and I think I heard Down Syndrome a few more times, and Razer said something on the MC server like "Well I don't give a fuck, ban me prick" or whatever, and then he disappeared.

So basically, Razer got mad, deserved to get banned, but instead of Inject just banning him or kicking him or whatever, he raged back a whole lot first. I heard "I'm not mad" but you don't join a vent server with "FIRST OF ALL DO YOU HAVE DOWN SYNDROME OR SOMETHING?" Not exactly professional, but neither is CG, Razer did seem to deserve some kind of punishment though, anyone who acts like that towards someone with admin is asking for it. Perhaps he didn't deserve it, but you guys were both getting pretty butthurt over restarting the server or not.

He wasn't the greatest player and most people seem to be happy he's gone. Allow him to return (if he wants) in a few weeks or so, to see if he's done. He probably won't want to come back and well, mission accomplished?

[Zukuto]

Okay, this is getting blown out of proportion.

Razer asked for his ban, almost literally. Simple as that.
He no doubt deserved it, he has an arrogant attitude and really needs to learn to calm the fuck down.
That's not saying I haven't had some good times with him, but the bad certainly do outweigh the good.

His ban was justified, although, Inject SHOULD have acted more maturely, that doesn't mean the ban was misplaced, and his judgment was sound. So stop trying to criticize every damn word he says, we know he was in the right, seeing as the majority of us know Razer.

This drama is completely unnecessary, it's a fucking week ban, get the fuck over it. You won't die, and who knows, maybe he'll go outside and make some real life friends, but starting this shit in an ONLINE COMMUNITY with little to no repercussions is just sad, quit making this shit more than it is.

[Sly]

Okay, this is getting blown out of proportion.

Razer asked for his ban, almost literally. Simple as that.
He no doubt deserved it, he has an arrogant attitude and really needs to learn to calm the fuck down.
That's not saying I haven't had some good times with him, but the bad certainly do outweigh the good.

His ban was justified, although, Inject SHOULD have acted more maturely, that doesn't mean the ban was misplaced, and his judgment was sound. So stop trying to criticize every damn word he says, we know he was in the right, seeing as the majority of us know Razer.

This drama is completely unnecessary, it's a fucking week ban, get the fuck over it. You won't die, and who knows, maybe he'll go outside and make some real life friends, but starting this shit in an ONLINE COMMUNITY with little to no repercussions is just sad, quit making this shit more than it is.

This.

Lock please.

[Blackllama]

Everyone quit playing the weekban card I posted this fully believing this was a permaban.

[Jorgen]

I believe this is pretty much covered by now, chatted about and such. The general response being leave the ban/the ban was just so yeah I guess I will lock this.
Any other CL have anything more to add go ahead and unlock.

[Cadaver]

Hmm. Sad.

And you all wonder why we rarely have others want to open their servers to us, free of charge...


My 2 Cents:
1) Masked Mania did deserve the ban, and stated to me, he did deserve it.

2) He was banned and was told by Inject how long.

3) I was aware of the ban, and approved. To get a ban in this circumstance, 2 CL must agree to the ban.

3) He acted poorly, and chose poorly, including saying he was leaving CG.  Very close to a "rage quit," which you all know, I tolerate well.... 

4) You don't cuss someone out, and not expect something negative occur.  Particularly when you do it in TWO servers...

5) Minecraft server access, as with ALL CG servers, is a PRIVILEGE.  Several here are showing severe Entitlement Issues.

6) Backdooring an unban request seems, well... Let me point back at the Entitlement Issue, again.

7) I removed non-topic related posts from one thread, and double checked with Inject, to make sure those posts would not delete.  They are supposed to be in the hidden folder.  If they are not, then something on the forum did not work correctly.

8 ) I double checked with Sly on the post removal, and he advised he was O.K. with it.

 Both Inject AND Masked were given opportunity to discuss this event with me.  Inject was fully cooperative, while Masked was a little lacking in this department, claiming I should just listen to Inject's side of the story. I also listened to other witness accounts. 

Masked admitted to losing his temper, acting poorly, and cussing Inject.

Inject admitted he used the term "retarded" and also got frustrated with Masked, and got close to losing his temper.  Inject has also stated he was sorry for using the term, and will try to not use the term again towards CG members.

Last I talked to Masked, via steam, I had thought this was over, and he understood the "why" for, and "how long" his ban was.

Normally, I will NOT discuss others bans with most of the rest of CG, because it is their ban, and not related to the rest of you.


Oh, and the ban stays for one week, on the Vent and Forum.   As for Sly's Minecraft, that is up to Sly.

Cadaver


Opened for BlackLlama to post, any other post gets removed...

[Blackllama]

Hey guys I just wanted to tell you I've talked to Cadaver and everything's cleared up.  Razer deserves the ban and he asked me to do this to stir up the situation, fuck him, blablabla everything's happy enjoy the rest of your lives WOOT!