Water Bottle's Ban Appeal

[rsd10]

Who you were banned by: Symbolzzzz ( I think, Sourcebans is down.)

Why were you banned: "Mass RDM" Via Exploding Barrel.

What server were you banned from: TTT

What date and/or time around you were banned: 9/5/11, around 2:30 Central Time

Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:39539692

In-Game Name: (=CG=) Expired Water Bottle

Link to Steam Page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039345112


Before you ask, I realize that carrying barrels is a traitorous act. But before the round started, (Post-round/pre-round) I had said I was going to put the barrel in that room, and with no one saying to not do that, I assumed people would either stop me or move the barrel out of the way. When I went into the room, I placed it down to close the door behind me, and Symbolzzzz decided to just shoot the barrel, killing us all except for one person. I indeed placed the barrel, but I didn't do anything to make it explode, I simply turned around to close the door. In addition, if I were to be killed for HAVING the barrel, you WOULDNT shoot the barrel, you would just shoot ME and then move the barrel away. But apparently that wasn't what Symbolzzz thought to do, so it cost many people their round AND me a ban (Which I don't even know how long because of Sourcebans not being accessible currently.) when a simple "Move that barrel away from this room." Would've sufficed. And may I also say that I'm not the ONLY one who brings barrels to other innocents, and I'm not the only one who gets people killed with them. I sincerely enjoy playing this TTT server and hate that an accident like this ends up ruining it.

Thank you for taking the time to read my appeal. If I were to get unbanned, Those explosives will only be in my grasps if I actually have a reason to have them.

[rsd10]

Its a bit upsetting that its been nearly a week, and I find no redemption or even a confirmation that something is being thought about. I know appeals don't work out that fast but I'd enjoy some kind of notice as to whether my chances are good, or bad. I'll take either one, if I'm not wanted here, than so be it, but if I am, then I will be.

[Ashes Relandi]

Well we gotta hear symbol's side of the story first and see what he has to say.

[Wholegrain]

sending towersheep (head admin of ttt) the link to this thread so it can get solved quicker

[symbolzzzz]

First of my I kinda fucked up with not responding earyler, comp upgrading and other things got in the way so really my bad.

Now a few things about your post.

When I went into the room, I placed it down to close the door behind me,

False. You brought the barrel into the room and stayed in the room, had you closed the door you would have survived the explosion.

and Symbolzzzz decided to just shoot the barrel, killing us all except for one person.

False again, I was not the one to shoot the barrel. I can't recall the name of the person that did it but he got his karma knocked down to around 500 and the events log had his name on all the kills. I am pretty sure he got banned as well, but I am not certain.

In addition, if I were to be killed for HAVING the barrel, you WOULDNT shoot the barrel, you would just shoot ME and then move the barrel away.

I was shooting at your face with a deagle, but since its TTT the headshots registered as bodyshots and someone shot the barrel before I managed to kill you.

Now onto this the ban itself.
The rule for shooting explosive barrels (and I discussed it with towere before banning you) was that the kills made by someone shooting the barrel went to the carrier of the barrel, rather then the shooter.
This in mind you got 6 teamkills with that barrel, that is mass RDM that in turn is a permanent ban.
You broke the rules and got your punishment.

[TowerSheep]

I will remove the ban. The fault is on me.

Symbols, I misunderstood when we were talking or possibly explained it wrong. I apologize for the problems water, feel free to PM me if I ever don't respond to something like this within a day.

For the sake of making this easy imagine this:
[Assume all are inno]
Water - guy carrying a barrel
Symbol - random player being followed by water w/ his barrel (in the blast radius)
Me - a person well away from the blast radius

Water is responsible for his death and cannot claim rdm if I shoot the barrel and no one else is around him. Water was manipulating a prop in a dangerous way.

Let's add symbol into the mix:
I see water following symbol with a barrel so I can shoot Water in defense of symbols (who may not have a clear shot without hitting the barrel). It is a legal kill because water was manipulating props in a dangerous way because he was putting another person in danger by following them on purpose.
Had I shot the barrel and symbols took any damage, I am guilty of rdm. I have no reason to hurt symbol and rdm is hurting(or killing) some one without a reason. Shooting the barrel is okay if NO ONE ELSE gets hurt from it.


Again, sorry about the confusion symbols and the unjust ban Water. This one was on me,

*Unbanned*

[rsd10]

Alright, Thanks, And Symbollz, Sorry I assumed, I guess I should have thought of the hitbox too.  I had closed the door on myself just to joke around, But I best not take jokes too far..but at least it can be over now.

[Ashes Relandi]

SOLVED
Requesting lock :3

[TowerSheep]

I was waiting from him to reply, calm down.