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This whole thing is a travesty.For starters, Pillz is obviously the sexiest.
Well. Any half-wit with a brain can see through questions like that, especially on an application for admin. Just as when you see those questions on job applications, you answer with what you assume they want to hear, that you'd be hardworking and efficient, while not all answers are always true. It's a good idea, but perhaps we should just ask: Have you read, and re-read the rules for the server you have applied? Or something, so when they break rules themselves, or don't enforce rules correctly that they should know, they can be held accountable for their actions.
Quote from: Pillz on July 13, 2011, 02:17:32 AMWell. Any half-wit with a brain can see through questions like that, especially on an application for admin. Just as when you see those questions on job applications, you answer with what you assume they want to hear, that you'd be hardworking and efficient, while not all answers are always true. It's a good idea, but perhaps we should just ask: Have you read, and re-read the rules for the server you have applied? Or something, so when they break rules themselves, or don't enforce rules correctly that they should know, they can be held accountable for their actions.My question and its answers was just a sample,the question and the answers on the actual application would go more in depth, with answers that are neither good nor bad, but just an insight on how they would handle the situation. Of course someone wouldn't put that they would ignore it and not do anything at all and just teleport themselves all around the map.
When it came to adding admins on ZPS, I would quiz them personally. I would give them a random situation and ask them to solve it without help from me. Because ZPS is practically unpossible to mess up from how I set up the punishments, I had every single admin ace the quizzes.I realize here will be harder, because RDM is a very miserable thing, lofting around in a vast area of gray. However, I believe it can be achievable with time and effort. I like this idea of quizzing, but I don't think it belongs on an application. It gives the applicant far too much time to think of their answer, when all of us know that, as admin, we are forced to make quick, accurate decisions on the spot. Also, they're looking at the right answer; they just need to figure out which is correct. They can easily go ask someone else or take a random guess. When quizzed on the spot, it's easy to tell if someone else is getting answer from another person or not, or looking things up based on how fast they respond. Doing this in vent with a one-on-one or a two-on-one (for a witness) would be best and prevent cheating.Please tell me what you think of my suggestion. (Technically not mine, but you get the point. :p)
There are questions, however, that can really pry someone's true colors to come out.For example:A player walks up to another player and headshots him. They are both innocent. Traditionally, this would be considered RDM, but the victim of the case could care less what the other player did. In essence, that is forgiveness. The player who committed the RDM immediately feels apologetic for his actions and requests a slay during the same round. Feeling ashamed, the player leaves. Now this is technically "RDM and Leave".What do you do? Dismiss him as an apologetic player who acknowledged his mistake? Or deliver the ban, as he technically, broke a rule.
Quote from: Waffuls the Huntress on July 13, 2011, 11:06:54 AMWhen it came to adding admins on ZPS, I would quiz them personally. I would give them a random situation and ask them to solve it without help from me. Because ZPS is practically unpossible to mess up from how I set up the punishments, I had every single admin ace the quizzes.I realize here will be harder, because RDM is a very miserable thing, lofting around in a vast area of gray. However, I believe it can be achievable with time and effort. I like this idea of quizzing, but I don't think it belongs on an application. It gives the applicant far too much time to think of their answer, when all of us know that, as admin, we are forced to make quick, accurate decisions on the spot. Also, they're looking at the right answer; they just need to figure out which is correct. They can easily go ask someone else or take a random guess. When quizzed on the spot, it's easy to tell if someone else is getting answer from another person or not, or looking things up based on how fast they respond. Doing this in vent with a one-on-one or a two-on-one (for a witness) would be best and prevent cheating.Please tell me what you think of my suggestion. (Technically not mine, but you get the point. :p)I prefer the old idea of having an undercover admin negotiate a time where the new admin would be the only admin on, and we see how they respond to any situations that arise. We take notes, and we let them know, or post it on the forums. Trial admin should be a 2 week long period, where everyone's watching them and seeing if they deserve to be an admin.
We should make a bunch of theese questions and just ask 3 each, and you'd have to answear atleast 2 right to be viable.
Quote from: Jorgen on July 14, 2011, 08:42:39 PMWe should make a bunch of theese questions and just ask 3 each, and you'd have to answear atleast 2 right to be viable.They would have to be changed each and every application./Looks at old admins application//Checks their answer//Answers own application correctly/Even if it were a short answer question, they could get the general idea from another applications, see how their answer was received, etc.