Violent Conflict

[crypto]

Specifically, war.

I was thinking about it last night. I've always been antiwar, etc., blah, blah, blah, but it really dawned on me last night.

War is so fucking stupid. It's such a great example of the manifold suckiness of humanity.

I don't even know what to say. I'm at a loss for words. To quote the greatest comedian of all time (may he rest in peace, yo):

I'm tired of enemies; I'll be honest with you. I'm sick of enemies. I got no fucking enemies, K? K. It's just a strange world; I don't know what we choose, why we choose the things we do as a collective. You ever wondered that? You know what I mean, the fact taht we live in a world where John Lennon was murdered, yet Milli Vanilli walks the fucking planet. You know? Bad choice. Just from me to you, it wasn't a good one. But isn't that weird, we always kill the guys who try and help us. Isn’t that strange, that we let the little demons run amok, always? John Lennon: murdered. John Kennedy: murdered. Martin Luther King: murdered. Gandhi: murdered. Jesus: murdered. Reagan … wounded. You know. Bad fucking choice.

But even though that’s the case, where we live in a world where good men are murdered and little demons run amok, I’m sorry I still believe it isn’t; in fact I had a vision of a way we could have no enemies ever again, if you’re interested in this. Anybody interested in hearing this? It’s kind of an interesting theory, and all we have to do is make one decisive act and we can rid the world of all our enemies at once. Here’s what we do. You know all that money we spend on nuclear weapons and defense ever year? Trillions of dollars. Instead, if we spent this money feeding and clothing the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded … not one … we could as one race explore outer space together in peace, for ever.

What a simple fucking solution, at least making an effort to make life better for EVERYONE IN THE WORLD.

But NOPE! Let's go blow shit up halfway across the world. What a premise!

[Boxman]

...Really though, what other natural predator do we have other than ourselves?
 Think about that.

[crypto]

Evolutionary truth doesn't dictate moral truth.

[Boxman]

True, but that does mean that without war, our population will eventually skyrocket out of control to the point where our government will have to enforce rules, idiotic rules, like the Chinese government...

I believe the law is one children per family.

Edit: I need to pay more attention before I submit it.

[crypto]

Why is that rule idiotic?

There are tons of means of population control that are way more effective and intelligent and humane than animalistic brutality.

Random example: I'm all for gay rights but it pisses me off to no fucking end that, say, a lesbian couple insists on pregnancy instead of adopting a poor fucking kid whose life in an orphanage or children's home is nothing but shit.

[Ghast]

Territorial domination seems much more important than the welfare of the unfortunate/impoverished.
(at least, that's what we're told)

This would be the ultimate solution to things, but the people who are control of the world's resources are too blinded by self-interest, so sadly, there isn't an iota of chance that this would see the light of reality.

But hey, optimism has its benefits.

[Ghast]

True, but that does mean that without war, our population will eventually skyrocket out of control to the point where our government will have to enforce rules, idiotic rules, like the Chinese government...

I believe the law is one children per family.

Edit: I need to pay more attention before I submit it.

War doesn't regulate population...

Fertility rates do...

EDIT:
Population control is a natural process and should not be tampered with by third parties. War is one of the major reasons for improper wealth/resource distribution.

[crypto]

And no, I'm not saying that my/Hicks's solution is all that feasible given how people work. It just ticks me off.

[Ghast]

And no, I'm not saying that my/Hicks's solution is all that feasible given how people work. It just ticks me off.

Human beings are primal in essence; even with moral dictation, the intrinsic feeling of using physical coercion as a means of gaining something or advancing through something prioritizes itself in our minds.

[Ghast]

This is what I've been waiting for crypto.

If I was a woman, I'd name myself Creative; because my juices are flowing.

[crypto]

Yeah.

Human beings are primal in essence; even with moral dictation, the intrinsic feeling of using physical coercion as a means of gaining something or advancing through something prioritizes itself in our minds.

I'm not even going to dignify this with a response.

[Ghast]

Yeah.

Human beings are primal in essence; even with moral dictation, the intrinsic feeling of using physical coercion as a means of gaining something or advancing through something prioritizes itself in our minds.

I'm not even going to dignify this with a response.

So that's it? WHY THE CESSATION!?

Maybe I should disagree with you to get some responses.

Alright,


Although war is immoral and more deleterious than anything else, it has its advantages.
- Increased economic activity (during an arms race)
- Depending on significance, can be a source of influence on modern literature
- Makes for good television/cinema recordings.

THIS POST WAS NOT OUT OF MALICIOUS DISCORD. I JUST WANTED TO CONTINUE THE DEBATE.

[crypto]

No, no, I was referring to the choice and arrangement of letters.

[Ghast]

No, no, I was referring to the choice and arrangement of letters.

The intonation of your posts just makes you seem like you wanted to make a point, rather than debate about it.

[crypto]

Okay, I don't think you understand me. I was joking about the awesome vocabulary of your post.

I did just want to make a point, really, but I put it in this subforum because I'm open to debate about it.

Although war is immoral and more deleterious than anything else, it has its advantges.
- Increased economic activity (during an arms race)

How is economic activity on the same level as human life?

- Depending on significance, can be a source of influence on modern literature

How is literature on the same level as human life?

- Makes for good television/cinema recordings.

How is television/cinema on the same level as human life?