The Existence of God/Gods

[Boxman]

Definitions of belief on the Web:

any cognitive content held as true
impression: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying"

Atheism is the belief of no god. Not hard to figure out.

[crypto]

Lack of belief in something is not itself a belief.

[Boxman]

-Sigh- Why must we do this? Can't we just stop?

A belief is the mental acceptance of a claim as truth. Therefore, it makes atheism a belief.

[crypto]

In the case of religion we treat belief as involving placing trust in something not supported by scientific evidence.

I will not stop until all theists either change their minds or are placed in gas chambers.

[Boxman]

I think being shot on spot would be an easier method to get rid of someone.

And to be fair, I've never actually heard of what you just stated. So I suppose you win, this time.

[Pillz]

I have to agree that there is some level of ignorance to arguing about religion. Especially when you're being that hostile, crypto. I mean I agree with most of what you say, but when you call someone stupid, they stop listening to you, rendering the argument useless, and a waste of time. This doesn't mean you shouldn't try, but all it does is start conflict and flaming. Any argument on religion that doesn't involve flaming, usually just ends when someone gets bored. I'm sure that a majority of the time, nobody's opinion changes, online their disposition towards the other debater.

[Yahtzee]

Any way you cut it religion is a really touchy subject....

[Jorgen]

religion is merely humanity knowing that their life is futile and useless, so they turn to a higher power and hope to live for ever.
hell maybe the reason for life, is to keep humanity going until a way to life forever is discovered lol
the hell do i know

[Yahtzee]

That was deep jorgen. Im still not a athiest though 

[Luingar]

i am an atheist. however, i am extremely receptive to the possibility that we are all simulations on a massively powerful computer, and that what we might consider "gods" might simply be our programmers, who, to the uninformed and easily influenced ancient masses, might be seen as gods due to their abilities to warp and manipulate reality seemingly at will.

That is equivalent to believing in God.

no, because i don't actually believe this, i just think it's a very real possibility. and even if it is true, these programmers wouldn't be gods per say, but just different people with different motivations and mindsets, but still flawed.

[Kwaurtz]

[Jorgen]

Lets see, I shall just say one thing I have always had problems with.

Heaven and hell, lets break them down heaven: place in which you feel nothing but pleasure (if I might add it is suposed to be so good that you've felt nothing like it on earth)
hell: place in which you feel nothing but pain (if i might add it is suposed to be so painfull that you can't even imagine it)

lets see, people who remain faithfull normally have had a rather okey life, not to much pain not to many problems.
people who can't remain faithfull are spread apart, but many are those who have lived a painfull life filled with large problems and can't believe someone that powerfull would just sit back and watch.

Is that fair, think about it those who have lived good lives get better lives in heaven, while those who have lived horible lives will get a worse life in hell.

An all powerfull all knowing who sais he is all love, would not be that unjust it is just logics.
Even if I was god I would not make something so horrible, it is just plainly wrong and odd

nice quote kwaurtz

[Fullmetal Megadave]

Im agnostic, but do believe in god, i just hate it where people say religion can cure all. Hell, there as dumbshit as the capitalist. Religion causes more problems than alcohol, drugs, sex, and political arguments combines.

[Dante]

SERIUSLY!
We need to ban religion topics because then the science types and aethiest get on and start yelling. THERE IS NO PROOF OF GOD THERE FOR HE DOES NOT EXSIST! While The religious people are saying. But what if he just wants you to think that way?
FOR Heavens/Hells/Gods/Aethiesm/Sciences..... FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY STOP BRINGING RELIGION UP!!!!
Religion + Science = WAR.

[Jorgen]

You sir are wrong, very few atheists here have yelled like bigots, although some have most have not.
Please keep your rage away from a debate thread, and move on dear sir/madame.