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Quote from: Raunky on November 24, 2010, 05:30:27 PMCouncil of Nicaea decided that Jesus was the Son of God and was God. You should look into your own faith some more.Actually God himself said Jesus was His Son in Matthew 17:5Quote from: (=DM=) Darius Sendar on November 24, 2010, 05:32:42 PMNo dude Jesus is not god he can not be the SON of god AND god. other wise he fucked his mom.And why are you arguing to me about my own religion?Jesus is God and is not God. Philippians Chapter 2 says how Jesus is on equal footing as God and humbled himself to become man. He is hence God and man. Also, Mary was a virgin. If you are going to defend Christianity, use the Bible please. ^_^Quote from: crypto on November 24, 2010, 05:35:01 PMQuote from: Holy on November 24, 2010, 05:31:13 PMQuote from: crypto on November 24, 2010, 05:09:26 PMTruth is not subjective. Everything must be proven for it to be real.If you'd rather deny reality and be happy than accept reality and . . . well, still probably be happy, then something is wrong with the way you see the world.So before fire/gravity/earth being round/other planets/deep sea creatures were discovered they weren't real? That statement is incorrect as I am pretty sure those things existed even before humans were around. You make it sound like humans are the center of the universe. Only what we deem real is actually real? PFFT! That is laughable. To the universe, our opinions mean nothing. It will continue to go on with or without us as it has for a long time.The properties of fire, gravity, earth, etc., can be empirically proven. God cannot be empirically proven.That's not the point. The point is saying that things that you don't know aren't real is a horribly inaccurate statement.
Council of Nicaea decided that Jesus was the Son of God and was God. You should look into your own faith some more.
No dude Jesus is not god he can not be the SON of god AND god. other wise he fucked his mom.And why are you arguing to me about my own religion?
Quote from: Holy on November 24, 2010, 05:31:13 PMQuote from: crypto on November 24, 2010, 05:09:26 PMTruth is not subjective. Everything must be proven for it to be real.If you'd rather deny reality and be happy than accept reality and . . . well, still probably be happy, then something is wrong with the way you see the world.So before fire/gravity/earth being round/other planets/deep sea creatures were discovered they weren't real? That statement is incorrect as I am pretty sure those things existed even before humans were around. You make it sound like humans are the center of the universe. Only what we deem real is actually real? PFFT! That is laughable. To the universe, our opinions mean nothing. It will continue to go on with or without us as it has for a long time.The properties of fire, gravity, earth, etc., can be empirically proven. God cannot be empirically proven.
Quote from: crypto on November 24, 2010, 05:09:26 PMTruth is not subjective. Everything must be proven for it to be real.If you'd rather deny reality and be happy than accept reality and . . . well, still probably be happy, then something is wrong with the way you see the world.So before fire/gravity/earth being round/other planets/deep sea creatures were discovered they weren't real? That statement is incorrect as I am pretty sure those things existed even before humans were around. You make it sound like humans are the center of the universe. Only what we deem real is actually real? PFFT! That is laughable. To the universe, our opinions mean nothing. It will continue to go on with or without us as it has for a long time.
Truth is not subjective. Everything must be proven for it to be real.If you'd rather deny reality and be happy than accept reality and . . . well, still probably be happy, then something is wrong with the way you see the world.
I am saying that belief in an untested hypothesis, or belief in something without any supporting evidence, is irrational and erroneous. This is a very simple concept. Stop trying to twist it into whatever best fits your inherently crippled argument.
I can see crypto came back for more, lol. I just hope I don't have to get back into this much...I'm gonna ignore the flaming, and go back to saying if you're christian and you DON'T believe in the trinity, you're not really catholic or any form of protestantism, but you could be a variation of eastern orthodox.
Quote from: dirtylaundry022 on November 28, 2010, 02:20:11 PMI can see crypto came back for more, lol. I just hope I don't have to get back into this much...I'm gonna ignore the flaming, and go back to saying if you're christian and you DON'T believe in the trinity, you're not really catholic or any form of protestantism, but you could be a variation of eastern orthodox.This completely random post is correct.To not believe in the trinity is to not believe everything in the bible which means that person is not really Christian to begin with as you cannot pick and chose what to believe.