Admin Abuse/Neglect - Billy

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Name of player reporting abuse: Many people who are fed up

Steam ID, to facilitate unban if applicable: -

Server: TTT

Admin who is suspected of the abuse: Billy

In which server did the abuse occur?: TTT

What occurred, what did the abuse consist of:
Overtime people have complained and collected evidence of Billy:

• Neglecting admin duties
• Abusing admin powers (Slapping players repeatedly w/ a case of a death caused by it)
• General rule breaking (Glitching, RDM)

What time and day did it happen (put down your time zone too): Continual over time.

Please link any evidence:

Steam conversations with non-admins: http://imgur.com/a/uMwNo

Various Screenshots and reasons. These belong to other people and do not originate from me:
"I noticed the TTT server was populated. Decided to check who was on. Saw Billy had a -13 score. Came on to this:"
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b50006.jpg

"Here are a few demos (.dem files) I recorded while Billy was on the server. He was eventually banned for glitching on Christmas Town after we - X and I - warned the entire server multiple times not to go on the roof."

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b5%202013-12-25%2020-51-01.dem

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b5%202013-12-25%2020-51-01_2.dem

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b5%202013-12-25%2020-51-01_3.dem

"He did not do his job on the server at all. There was an RDM and Leave I reported twice (files below) that he did not do anything about. I doubt he was even getting logs, as there were multiple instances where I would have slain - or banned - someone and he did not take any action, including reports of RDM. He barely used admin chat or his own chat, if at all, to circumvent any mic spamming/singing or rulebreaking, and even went so far as to sing himself multiple times. He was also part of RDM at least once or twice, either on the giving or receiving end, or watched RDM occur and didn't take care of it."
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/ttt_amsterville0007.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/ttt_amsterville0008.jpg

A bunch of screenshots about Billy:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iLVZKd2J2aGVfTm8/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iRkc0R0lFQlNDQ0k/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iOF9jMFQ3WWtGUVU/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5ibkdLVEZCVHdGbkU/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5ickk2RnlmajJJd0U/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iNmJ5VUFfV0ZIN0k/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iajB3SjZseGlSeE0/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iX2NibV9DVzVxek0/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iRVlIeWxTNUpPN00/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5ia1E4dk9kcjFoRkk/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iQWw0M1ZzSmVXQTA/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iY293OWhMNHNhcDQ/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iU1I2dkNuWjdiR0E/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iX1RRaWc0M3FuSnc/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5ieWtsRjJJY2d1M2c/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5idDBIcmt4eGFXRUU/edit?usp=sharing

.dem Files

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iZzVFV19GY2RUT1E/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iVWlwblgtOHBpZm8/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iUU84aFJXV20wQUE/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iSk13YXVfZzE0RDg/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5ieXdpQ01lWV9mWVU/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5idVViRW9FRVVuVFU/edit?usp=sharing

Some damage logs

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iT201Vm1ySDQxZE0/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5ieGt2OVZweGwtNDg/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwevx6JGfM5iSVZ0YVVFQ0UxQkk/edit?usp=sharing

This is concerning the recent ban

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b50008.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b50007.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/ttt_wintermansion_beta20009.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/ttt_wintermansion_beta20010.jpg

More .dem

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b5%202013-12-28%2023-24-54.dem

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b5%202013-12-28%2023-24-54_2.dem

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62501198/SenpaiBilly/dm_richland_notrap_b5%202013-12-28%2023-24-54_3.dem


Additional comments:

I haven't personally taken a look at any of the .dem files but they supposedly relate to the case.

A lot of this isn't necessarily abuse of power's, but reasons he shouldn't have admin privileges.

Requesting removal of powers

[Christovski]

I've heard numerous complaints of RDM but with no evidence. 

Finally someone's got some proof that might put this to rest.  I don't believe this is a +1/-1 situation Rainbow, this seems like something that is up to Cortez and/or the CLs, unless one of those folks says I'm wrong on this of course.

[theyankees213]

I constantly get reports of problems, but everytime I get on theres none, so hes been doing this without admins on. i was told there was alot of proof being gathered, glad this finally stops.

[Tictactoe360]

Holy hell that's a lot of evidence. How long has this been going in for? Because I dont ever recall having problems with him when I played (like 2 months ago).

I've heard so many horror stories of what Billy does when nobodies there to watch him. The most common thing I've heard of is him RDMing/TeamKilling and refusing to slay himself, but the moment someone kills him it's an instant slay.

[Christovski]

Holy hell that's a lot of evidence. How long has this been going in for? Because I dont ever recall having problems with him when I played (like 2 months ago).

The oldest reports I was told of (but they had no evidence) wasn't long after he was promoted to Reg, 3 months or so ago.

[Billy]

Wow. That's a lot of stuff.

The only defense I have is - a few of those screenshots are most certainly not of me. Most of them are, but there's a few that just aren't. Especially the "blue overlord" thing, I have absolutely zero idea what that was about. I never slap-spam people during the round. The first half of those screenshots (specifically the ones where I'm George Washington) were BEFORE I had even re-applied to become admin, so I wouldn't count those as valid. Those were from a very long time ago, and I don't RDM like that anymore. And before you say, "but yes you do, look at the most recent logs from richland and rooftops!"

Ask the victims TastyBagel and PaperClips, we were all playing around with barrels in the basement, and they were okay with it. There were only like 5-6 people on at the time; it was late at night.

With the whole spam-slap / continuously banning an id thing -- that was an accident. There were only like 3 people on, and I was slapping the winner (he was ok with it) and I accidentally pressed up twice instead of once in console, bringing up my last ulx ban instead of a ulx slap, and it banned the person I had just banned over and over again. But that isn't even really relevant.

There was a thread a while ago on the issue of slapping and slaying after the round was over, and Cortez himself said it was okay as long as the "victim" was alright with it - and this was always the case for me. Whenever someone said stop, I'd stop.

Despite all of that, why has no one ever brought any of this up with me? That seems unfair. If I'm doing things you don't like.. Why don't you tell me? I'm open to criticism and if what I've done was wrong, then I'd be more than willing to change the way I play and admin. The only person to ever voice their concerns with me was HerpDerpMike, and we had thorough discussion and I've changed since then. When he tells me that I've been being a little shit (no one else has btw) I take a step back and look at what I've done that was wrong, and change it.

I haven't watched any of the .dems, but I suppose I will soon.

Also, most of the time I play, there are 2-4 other admins on, some of which are vets or CLs, so I generally let them do the admining because they are higher ranking and thus would make what I assume would be the best decisions. If I'm the only admin on, I always take RDM reports and kick/ban/slay rule breakers, so I have no idea what that talk is about.

I'm not saying I'm the perfect admin in any way at all. I honestly didn't know I had so many complaints against me. I never purposefully abused my powers to spite anyone, or ruin the game or anyone else's fun. I wish people told me earlier. I'm not the kind of guy to just keep doing wrong if people tell me about it. I feel like half of this "evidence" wouldn't even be here if someone - anyone - nipped my shit in the bud. I didn't even realize I was being this much of an asshat until I saw all of this.

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EDIT:

I've heard so many horror stories of what Billy does when nobodies there to watch him. The most common thing I've heard of is him RDMing/TeamKilling and refusing to slay himself, but the moment someone kills him it's an instant slay.

I know for a fact this is a lie, because if you've EVER played TTT with me, you'd know I literally never slay anyone for killing me, unless they RDMed other people too, in the same round. I ALWAYS tell people it's okay, and move on, because I don't care if people kill me.

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

I've heard numerous complaints of RDM but with no evidence. 

Finally someone's got some proof that might put this to rest.  I don't believe this is a +1/-1 situation Rainbow, this seems like something that is up to Cortez and/or the CLs, unless one of those folks says I'm wrong on this of course.

I don't want +1/-1 on anything related to ban appeals or admin abuse, I don't know how many times I have to say this. I do want relevent opinions and evidence.

[Pillz]

For whatever reasons, I think Billy is still a friend of the community; and do not think he deserves a permaban. Removal of his admin would be a sufficient enough punishment, and at the most I can see a 3 month ban making sense.

[Billy]

I personally believe that this thread is unfair. As I've said before -- no one, and I mean NO ONE told me about ANY of this prior to this thread. How am I supposed to know that what I'm doing is bad if no one tells me?

And once again, some of those screenshots are NOT of me - and some of them aren't even incriminating. In a lot of those damage logs, you can clearly see that I was damaged first, or the person I attacked hurt and/or killed someone prior. So why are they being posted as evidence of RDM? They're clearly self defense.. And I haven't even gotten to the .dems yet.

[Mr_Rainbow]

no one, and I mean NO ONE told me about ANY of this prior to this thread. How am I supposed to know that what I'm doing is bad if no one tells me?

That is complete bullshit. When I was playing on the map with all the toys and stuff, (where you're tiny and shit) I told you about the rdm you did to me, and I think Ralph and Scooby did as well. So don't make bullshit excuses and try and get out of this.

[Christovski]

You're an admin Billy and should know the rules.  Not to mention actually enforce them.  A lot of the above came from other admins who went undercover.

[theyankees213]

For whatever reasons, I think Billy is still a friend of the community; and do not think he deserves a permaban. Removal of his admin would be a sufficient enough punishment, and at the most I can see a 3 month ban making sense.

Serious? I dont think he needs any ban, except the week he got recently. Losing admin(if he does) is punishing enough. I could see 2 at the MOST for some of the rdming hes done, but most of it is neglect/ minor trolling and not bannable.

[Billy]

no one, and I mean NO ONE told me about ANY of this prior to this thread. How am I supposed to know that what I'm doing is bad if no one tells me?

That is complete bullshit. When I was playing on the map with all the toys and stuff, (where you're tiny and shit) I told you about the rdm you did to me, Ralph, and I think Scooby did as well. So don't make bullshit excuses and try and get out of this.

What? What are you even talking about? Do you have some sort of grudge against me? I don't even know you - I've played with you maybe once or twice, and whatever I did to you, it apparently isn't as bad as you're making it out to be, since you never reported it or, idunno, brought it up with be in PMs on steam or on the forums. I may have RDMed you once or twice - I can't really recall, but are you meaning to tell me I didn't slay myself after? We might have a miscommunication here. Maybe you felt that you were RDMed, and I felt it was justified, or something. I don't know. But I'm not here to make your game any less fun, so I apologize, but attacking me and accusing me of lying isn't nice. I have no reason to lie on the internet - especially not on CG, where I've devoted over four years of my life to.

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EDIT:

You're an admin Billy and should know the rules.  Not to mention actually enforce them.  A lot of the above came from other admins who went undercover.

Yes, I do know the rules, and yes - I do enforce them. What does that have to do with anything?

[Christovski]

Yes, I do know the rules, and yes - I do enforce them. What does that have to do with anything?

The above evidence is of you breaking the rules.  Ergo if you know the rules and enforce them, you should not have broken them as the OP shows

[Billy]

Yes, I do know the rules, and yes - I do enforce them. What does that have to do with anything?

The above evidence is of you breaking the rules.  Ergo if you know the rules and enforce them, you should not have broken them as the OP shows

Have you watched any of those .dems? I've seen five of them now, and none of them show any evidence at all of me breaking any rules. 90% of those damage logs clearly show self-defense. Only very few of these show me actually breaking any rules, and even then that does not warrant bans and removals of power. I just spoke to otterfiend and he saw exactly what I saw - a bunch of nothing. This thread aggravates me because a lot of it is clearly biased against me, for most of it doesn't show anything at all.