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ALSO, BY ALL OF YOUR LOGIC, LETS UNBAN SNAK/REBELMASTER TOOO, THATLL GO OVER SWELL!
Quote from: Inject OH 4 on December 18, 2013, 12:08:05 AMQuote from: Pillz on December 17, 2013, 07:41:30 PMWell then the question is now how do we punish Inject for his recent racism thread, I mean yeah he was joking but he had me more convinced that he thinks poor people should stop breeding than Crypto had me convinced he was tired of homosexuality in the news. From what I heard though Inject sounds like he really thought what he's talking about through though, Crypto's post was blatant retardation, just like all the retardation before him in the thread he got banned from.No you're not pulling that shit. 1 I wasn't racist. 2 It was among only friends in a public talking point on TS. Not related and not the same.Cryptos post where not blatantly obviously or anything. There was no indication he didn't mean them. No more then my own at least. And I'm really damn good at reading between the lines (or more then most people). And if I sound like I was serious or not in that thread is not relevant since I clearly indicated I wasn't, however even if I was that isn't even an issue. You can't ban someone from having a different opinion, wrong or not. The idea is they don't express there opinion not that they don't have it.For example if someone was a homophobe, we would let them join the community. We wouldn't know, they wouldn't say. And we'd all go along our Marley days. However if he then expressed he opinions and offended a member or broke the rule within a homophobic way, then yes we punish him. We aren't therapist. We aren't hear to rebuild people.And my thread was a joke. Really bad timing for Kwaurtz to post it? Yeah. Did I ask him to? No.Quote we both know Crypto as a friend where Inject's only ever known him as an enemy,Wrong again. Before ban 3 we got along. I was fine. Then he did something. Cadaver banned him. Fin.QuoteWorst Case scenario if we unban him: He calls someone dumb, or as Inject used to say "Do you have down syndrome or something?"Best Case scenario if we unban him: He posts coherently and gets along with everyone.He knows the rules, and if he's unbanned; he knows we'll be enforcing them (properly).Did he not know the rules the last 3 times he got banned then?Your logic is tragically flawed.By this logic we should unban everyone. I don't see how you are able to be so double standard.And honestly when is the last time I've said "Do you have down syndrome or something?". It's been a pretty long time. Pretty sure I stoped when CG rules changed and we became the Nazi empire we are today.Oh shit, sorry was that a secret?Hey, if changing us from the Nazi empire we are today makes people happy, I'm down because that's half the problem. That's the point behind me saying "I think the ban was too harsh because the whole thread was a joke, it was an aprils fools day thread", and that's how we knew he wasn't serious. Then he wasn't even being grammatically correct, so that should be a big red flag for someone like Crypto. I agree he's pushed the line before but for example; if I understand the situation correctly he was kicked from MC for complaining about not being able to use an addon~ like I can only imagine how much more that antagonized him, but I don't know what happened so I'll stay out of it. I'm not seriously saying you've done any wrong Inject, I thought the audio was going to be worse when I saw the thread. The point is both of you were claiming to be joking, and neither of you should be punished. If we're going to follow a system that ends up with people banned for saying pushy things like that repeatedly, we should fairly apply it to everyone and start counting every report to a moderator, giving people 3-30 temporary forum bans and blah blah blah. That'd just be more "nazism" to everyone though I'm sure, but I dunno. Crypto was fine back on the SKG forums, with KAT and never caused any problems until CG. He has always been a fun guy to play ZPS with and talk to, and I want him unbanned but I'd be willing to vote -1 if the community really doesn't want it. It's REALLY hard to specify the "community" too. No matter WHAT happens, half of CG likes Crypto and wants to give him a chance, the other half doesn't; or at least a portion of the community doesn't get what they want..Maybe we can organize some community addition to the ban appeal process where everyone can add them and play/talk with Crypto and vote in a month on what they feel should be done. We need more threads as active as this one btw, 1000+ views already? Jeezypeezy
Quote from: Pillz on December 17, 2013, 07:41:30 PMWell then the question is now how do we punish Inject for his recent racism thread, I mean yeah he was joking but he had me more convinced that he thinks poor people should stop breeding than Crypto had me convinced he was tired of homosexuality in the news. From what I heard though Inject sounds like he really thought what he's talking about through though, Crypto's post was blatant retardation, just like all the retardation before him in the thread he got banned from.No you're not pulling that shit. 1 I wasn't racist. 2 It was among only friends in a public talking point on TS. Not related and not the same.Cryptos post where not blatantly obviously or anything. There was no indication he didn't mean them. No more then my own at least. And I'm really damn good at reading between the lines (or more then most people). And if I sound like I was serious or not in that thread is not relevant since I clearly indicated I wasn't, however even if I was that isn't even an issue. You can't ban someone from having a different opinion, wrong or not. The idea is they don't express there opinion not that they don't have it.For example if someone was a homophobe, we would let them join the community. We wouldn't know, they wouldn't say. And we'd all go along our Marley days. However if he then expressed he opinions and offended a member or broke the rule within a homophobic way, then yes we punish him. We aren't therapist. We aren't hear to rebuild people.And my thread was a joke. Really bad timing for Kwaurtz to post it? Yeah. Did I ask him to? No.Quote we both know Crypto as a friend where Inject's only ever known him as an enemy,Wrong again. Before ban 3 we got along. I was fine. Then he did something. Cadaver banned him. Fin.QuoteWorst Case scenario if we unban him: He calls someone dumb, or as Inject used to say "Do you have down syndrome or something?"Best Case scenario if we unban him: He posts coherently and gets along with everyone.He knows the rules, and if he's unbanned; he knows we'll be enforcing them (properly).Did he not know the rules the last 3 times he got banned then?Your logic is tragically flawed.By this logic we should unban everyone. I don't see how you are able to be so double standard.And honestly when is the last time I've said "Do you have down syndrome or something?". It's been a pretty long time. Pretty sure I stoped when CG rules changed and we became the Nazi empire we are today.Oh shit, sorry was that a secret?
Well then the question is now how do we punish Inject for his recent racism thread, I mean yeah he was joking but he had me more convinced that he thinks poor people should stop breeding than Crypto had me convinced he was tired of homosexuality in the news. From what I heard though Inject sounds like he really thought what he's talking about through though, Crypto's post was blatant retardation, just like all the retardation before him in the thread he got banned from.
we both know Crypto as a friend where Inject's only ever known him as an enemy,
Worst Case scenario if we unban him: He calls someone dumb, or as Inject used to say "Do you have down syndrome or something?"Best Case scenario if we unban him: He posts coherently and gets along with everyone.He knows the rules, and if he's unbanned; he knows we'll be enforcing them (properly).
This guy pisses off literally everyone off and he has a higher likely hood of getting back and I rdm 6 people and the rage is simply palpable. CG, full of lols
TTT is like a radio station, they always play the same damn thing every day.
Quote from: Past on December 19, 2013, 03:54:00 PMThis guy pisses off literally everyone off and he has a higher likely hood of getting back and I rdm 6 people and the rage is simply palpable. CG, full of lolsWho are you?
Ooooo! Is it that time of the year again for our quarterly "unban Crypto" proposal?Jeez guys, I had to come out of retirement and log back in just for this shit. Look, we've had millions of posts about this in the past, can we just unban the man and be done with it? Give him a shot and if he fucks up re-ban.Aight? Aight.
I've proved people wrong on so many occasioans
Oh wow I do.Its because. I'm really active on the forum.
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Quote from: SlyWilliam on December 19, 2013, 07:08:15 PMOoooo! Is it that time of the year again for our quarterly "unban Crypto" proposal?Jeez guys, I had to come out of retirement and log back in just for this shit. Look, we've had millions of posts about this in the past, can we just unban the man and be done with it? Give him a shot and if he fucks up re-ban.Aight? Aight.Funny how it does happen once a year. I mean Christmas comes once year as well. We should have unban crypto day every year on...lets say August 1st. So we ban him at the beginning of the year, unban him in August, then reban every Jan 1st.Obviously we weren't that generous this year, since he will only have 11 days to have fun.
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