Kwaurtz for xXSSJXXADMIN420360NOSCOPEXx

[Kwaurtz]

I just think its silly for people to get special ranks for what they contribute, I joke around with you about shit like that in our chats Pillz, but seriously, when we were putting up the NS2 server, I fixed the mods with jorgen and got the server up and running with him, still a trial. I've done graphics stuff for CG, never once needed another rank. Wanting to help shouldn't require another rank. What Jorgen and I used to do was both get copies of the mods for NS2, and tinker with them both until one of us managed to fix it, and if it happened to me, I'd just send the files to him rather than uploading them myself.

[Christovski]

With a rank it means they are expected to do things rather than just when they feel like it, if they dont do the job they lose it, simple enough

[Old Crow]

With a rank it means they are expected to do things rather than just when they feel like it, if they dont do the job they lose it, simple enough

But nobody has. There are people that don't do anything and still have admin, and again, I have never seen a Trial lose their admin, even after abusing the powers.

[Christovski]

Well then thats the problem, not the ranks, but enforcement.  I have seen people get proof against trials and then nothing was done by the HA so maybe they just gave them a warning but I dunno man.  Maybe if soemone has a problem with an admin doing things wrong they should go to HA AND the CLs to make sure noone 'sweeps things under the rug'

[Old Crow]

Well then thats the problem, not the ranks, but enforcement.  I have seen people get proof against trials and then nothing was done by the HA so maybe they just gave them a warning but I dunno man.  Maybe if soemone has a problem with an admin doing things wrong they should go to HA AND the CLs to make sure noone 'sweeps things under the rug'

But shouldn't trial actually mean trial? It shouldn't be a free ride IMO, same goes for CLs/HAs that don't do their job, or drag their feet on making decisions.

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

With a rank it means they are expected to do things rather than just when they feel like it, if they dont do the job they lose it, simple enough

But nobody has. There are people that don't do anything and still have admin, and again, I have never seen a Trial lose their admin, even after abusing the powers.

Are you serious crow? Lots of trials have lost their admin powers over the years. Oobla and Linkster off of the top of my head. Besides everybody's human, I think that part of the trial experience is to learn. It's much worse for there to be abuse from a veteran that should know better than a trial that doesn't quite get it yet. We're a gaming community anyways, not some business trying to super efficient. Most of the pitfalls in CG have come from higher leadership, not the server admins.

[oobla37]

With a rank it means they are expected to do things rather than just when they feel like it, if they dont do the job they lose it, simple enough

But nobody has. There are people that don't do anything and still have admin, and again, I have never seen a Trial lose their admin, even after abusing the powers.

Are you serious crow? Lots of trials have lost their admin powers over the years. Oobla and Linkster off of the top of my head. Besides everybody's human, I think that part of the trial experience is to learn. It's much worse for there to be abuse from a veteran that should know better than a trial that doesn't quite get it yet. We're a gaming community anyways, not some business trying to super efficient. Most of the pitfalls in CG have come from higher leadership, not the server admins.

Well, we didn't lose our powers because if admin abuse. Crow, you probably didn't even notice, but I reported multiple admins to towersheep after they actually abused powers, (slapping/slaying midround, slaying whoever killed them) and they were subsequently removed. The reason you never saw it was because they just left and never said anything. Many trials from ttt have lost admin powers due to clear cut admin abuse in the year that I've been here.

[Ðeath.]

Death and Alpha are kind of busy with Thanksgiving stuff still I believe but we'll be back to scheming together soon enough.

I was swimming...

...Yeah.. And Christmas Shopping. (I have a few hours of free time, so, hi.)


Yeah, +1 to Kwaurtz for "SSJ Admin" though. We need more super saiyans.



Edit: And about the whole GA thingy-ma-jig whatcha hoozit. Red hasn't done-diddly abused or anything, ye? he been helpin? Give it a lil' while, heck, he might be handy-dandy to you sometime. Y'never know. K thanks, gonna sleep because I'm exhausted and need to do things.

[Old Crow]

I'm not talking about abuse Cortez (although I did reference it, my bad), more along the lines of not meeting a standard. There are at least two admins that shouldn't have progressed past trial but did anyway. Yeah, I get we shouldn't be super serious either, but there should be a standard non the less. Admins are the face of the community and their respective servers after all.

All that being said, right now our staff is top notch, but still food for thought.

[Sejo Mino]

It'd be nice if he had FTP and could work on servers with HA's permission but people don't seem to like the rank so I guess we'll just throw it away and demote Red instead?

All I wanted to do was help and so far I have helped, a lot. But if this is how you all see this rank/position, as a slap in the face and something you all hate, then yes I will resign/be demoted/have less power as GA, I don't mind I suppose. CG needs to be fixed (Because yes, it is broken right now.) and I've done my part so far, if my usefulness has ended then ok.

So far when i read this whole report i found kwartz ranking thingy kinda of a eye opener. It is going to get in the way a bit and will need to be re-tweaked. I also read this and i notice that this post doesn't show leadership, but regret. Also noticed that the name change has happened, wasn't that used for only people who had offensive names, names that were not in English, or other. As I remember from a message from Inject a while ago, which is why he made it off limits. Nothing against you tho Red. XP

[Old Crow]

It'd be nice if he had FTP and could work on servers with HA's permission but people don't seem to like the rank so I guess we'll just throw it away and demote Red instead?

All I wanted to do was help and so far I have helped, a lot. But if this is how you all see this rank/position, as a slap in the face and something you all hate, then yes I will resign/be demoted/have less power as GA, I don't mind I suppose. CG needs to be fixed (Because yes, it is broken right now.) and I've done my part so far, if my usefulness has ended then ok.

So far when i read this whole report i found kwartz ranking thingy kinda of a eye opener. It is going to get in the way a bit and will need to be re-tweaked. I also read this and i notice that this post doesn't show leadership, but regret. Also noticed that the name change has happened, wasn't that used for only people who had offensive names, names that were not in English, or other. As I remember from a message from Inject a while ago, which is why he made it off limits. Nothing against you tho Red. XP

Names can be changed very rarely, and 95% of the time you only can do it once.

[Christovski]

I'm not talking about abuse Cortez (although I did reference it, my bad), more along the lines of not meeting a standard. There are at least two admins that shouldn't have progressed past trial but did anyway. Yeah, I get we shouldn't be super serious either, but there should be a standard non the less. Admins are the face of the community and their respective servers after all.

At least 2.

[Kwaurtz]

So am I getting SSJ admin or wat

[Leetgrain]

Aaaaaand all regained shits are gone.

[Obviously not Gopib]

You guys must be new to the internet, or life in general, or have never heard of the onion/daily show/colbert report.

Guys this whole thing is not fucking trolling.
Honestly lighten up a little will ya.

Also +1 for SSJ