A concern about the server

[Kwaurtz]

If you look at this graph, in the past two weeks our servers rank is just taking a plummet. Whats causing this?



Also, for those of you whom complain that its a 24/7 67th way, its not even the most played map on the server




The following are the server variables for the most popular TTT server:

Spoiler for Most Popular Server:

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nextlevel   
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sbox_persist   
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sv_steamgroup   
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version    13.07.05

[Christovski]

My best guess is we have a lot of people who are in school as regulars/admins, since that just started a week or so ago.  Other servers may have older players, or younger players who have less homework or soemthing.

Again, just a guess as both are happening at roughly the same time.

[Kwaurtz]

My best guess is we have a lot of people who are in school as regulars/admins, since that just started a week or so ago.  Other servers may have older players, or younger players who have less homework or soemthing.

Again, just a guess as both are happening at roughly the same time.

And thats probably CG's largest problem. We hardly have an older demographic, there are a few of us who are done with school and all, but because we fail to have a bigger demographic beyond college I think thats part of the reason CG doesn't get as much donations as it needs to survive at this point. I know you and I have both made rather large contributions in the past, but a few people can't support us all.

[Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!)]

It might be an issue with how much the server has been crashing lately. I'm not sure how much this is still happening but I was getting some complaints a week ago. If you guys are still noticing this I'll get in contact with the server provider and figure out what can be done because as far as I can tell it's nothing to do with the files we have on our server.

[Christovski]

And thats probably CG's largest problem. We hardly have an older demographic, there are a few of us who are done with school and all, but because we fail to have a bigger demographic beyond college I think thats part of the reason CG doesn't get as much donations as it needs to survive at this point. I know you and I have both made rather large contributions in the past, but a few people can't support us all.

Ding ding ding.  This is totally correct.  There are a few of us, but the bulk of CG is under 21 (remember the old guys thread I started and it was pretty much just you, me, crow and cadaver?) and it does hurt us in the end.

I'm not saying anything against the younger crowd here, just pointing out what the statistics show

Fortunately as we have a lot of people entering/in college right now, if they DO stick around soon we will have a decent number of people who are out of school.

IF they stick around.  It's funny actually, I didn't join SKG until I had just left college (2007ish), so I've always been in the post-college group.

We should maybe mention this at whatever meeting we have (if we actually do the meetings thing that Old Crow talked about) and maybe brainstorm ideas to attract/keep more of the mature gamer crowd

It might be an issue with how much the server has been crashing lately. I'm not sure how much this is still happening but I was getting some complaints a week ago. If you guys are still noticing this I'll get in contact with the server provider and figure out what can be done because as far as I can tell it's nothing to do with the files we have on our server.

This would definitely be a step in the right direction, yeah TTT is unstable-ish because of GMOD but if the servers going down this often we might just be getting shitty service from the provider

[UnknownError]

Just from yesterday,  server is really laggy at times. I kicked some guy who had 400+ ping and it solved it for the remainder of the map. Just something to keep in mind.

[AbkaFlab]

Communities with a lot of MMOs seem to attract older people from what Ive seen, when I played planetside2 I was always the youngest guy in the outfit with one other kid who is the same age as me. The rest of the outfit was all older people. Like half of them had a wife and kids.

As for the donations, most people under 18 can't donate because they don't have a credit card/debit card/whatever else to link to a paypal account to pay for a donation because they're not old enough for one.

[Christovski]

As for the donations, most people under 18 can't donate because they don't have a credit card/debit card/whatever else to link to a paypal account to pay for a donation because they're not old enough for one.

Also true, I got lucky I got a special account when I was 16 that gave me a debit card that could be used as a credit card, but just taken directly out of my bank account instead.

I can't blame anyone for not donating these days, economy is rough, and kids need to save for college and then later pay it off. 

If we're talking donations though, I don't believe CG is doing enough to keep on top of donations, we had a whole thread of suggestions to get people to donate, and nothing was ever done with it.

[Old Crow]

School is the biggest factor. You can see as it nose dives the same week school starts.

[Leetgrain]

It's because I haven't been playing in a while and everyone's so lost and distraught. Totally xP

[Muffins]

All i am saying is if you want donations open up a DayZ server (Overwatch mod). I know someone who runs a server on DayZ and he gets a lot of donations just so people can spawn in with a weapon and some other stuff. He gets a profit off of it cause just giving them weapons and skins cost nothing.

I know what you are thinking, how could we populate a DayZ server? I know a couple of big streamers that could play on our server and easily advertise it to viewers so they could play. I think its a great idea but I know someone will come up with some ways to argue against it and not make it happen.

[crovv]

• School
• A lot of regulars not being on, randoms not joining because of the lack of population

When we get all the GM/CL threads finished up, we should talk about expanding donations. I might be able to throw in some money.

[Pillz]

Just from yesterday,  server is really laggy at times. I kicked some guy who had 400+ ping and it solved it for the remainder of the map. Just something to keep in mind.

If this is an issue I might suggest the HPK(high ping kicker) plugin, it works like a charm on ZPS but I don't think the same plugin would work but I'm sure there are GMOD versions out there.

[Kountd0wn]

Pretty much what a bunch of you have already said...
For me it's definitely school. I love the server, but I simply don't have time with school during the day and homework after that.
And, with the lack of regulars on, many people don't have a reason to join :/

[Pillz]

Well when I joined today it took literally 5-6 minutes to connect which was kind of retarded; there were a few files I had to download that would take literally like 10-15 seconds before it moved to the next one. Don't recall that before but I guess that happens the first time you play in a while; idk.

Then I raged because there was tons of mic usage and I got "HIGHLY SUSPECTED" by scooby both rounds despite doing nothing but walking around being bored; was traitor first round but had just picked a gun up and crossed the bridge on island when everyones like SUSPECT PILLZ, WHATS UR PRIMARY; so I guess I'll just shout at everyone to suspect each other next time I play. Game always gives me a headache and half a panic attack.