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« on: August 28, 2016, 12:19:33 AM »
UNBAN THIS MAN
DOWN WITH THIS CISHETIC, CAPITALISTIC, WHITE OPPRESION
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« on: September 19, 2013, 12:27:51 AM »
Camper Strike aka Bairy Hall Bag aka sanicthehotdog
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« on: May 31, 2013, 06:49:36 PM »
Not sure if I should be saying anything here as I'm no longer admin, but I will anyways. I seem to recall you doing such things as that. But lizzard I have never seen do such things. He is a honest player and I've never seen him break ANY rules at all. You on the other hand...
No idea of what you're talking about. I stopped playing TTT for a year since I resigned and I only started playing recently (last week IIRC). About IIZard, if you think that, you obviously don't know him enough. Wait until an admin brings up the chat logs. Your story lines up kinda i guess.. Only thing im wondering is why you didnt respond when that ban request was made? You should have seen it if you were on the forums (Only reason i say this is because you are a regular of the forums with your post count and whatnot)but if you wernt on, then thats understandable. Lets see what unknown says since he banned you, and if anyone else was in game.
PS:Not sure if I should be saying anything here as I'm no longer admin, but I will anyways.
Anyone can post if they have relevant info/evidence/knowledge.
I rarely come to these forums anymore as I left CG as an admin (and tbh as a player too since I stopped almost completely with TTT for different reasons). I only took notice of the thread because someone sent me on Steam chat. I was actually on yesterday, but I don't remember the full details. What I do remember is that iizard and a guy named Nuclear Taco (or something) were arguing, trying to RDM each other, and just generally not being good players. There was another player named Neohate (or something) and he too was in the bulk of the fight but I didn't pick up on anything beyond that he was involved. From when I played with Sanic, he wasn't doing anything wrong. I do remember playing with Camper 2-3 years ago when he was an admin, and he always did his job well and was a fair person. Also, Sanic's apparent "homophobic" statements were not even close.
Yeah, Nuclear Taco was on the server. However I didn't see if he was arguing with IIZard as well (even though I do remember him arguing with someone), as I was focused on my issue.
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« on: May 31, 2013, 05:48:10 PM »
Who were you banned by: Unknown Error Why were you banned: "Revenge rdm and homophobic speech" What server where you banned from: TTT What date and/or time around were you banned:Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:11795881 Your in game name:Link to your steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/id/magicallyricalgirlJoseph/Additional comments:I don't really need to defend myself since the chat logs (which no one checked before banning me) speak for themselves, however I got banned and I feel like I have to at least clear some things up. I got perma'd yesterday for "double revenge RDM and homophobic language" (which is ridiculous but I'll get there in a few lines). First things first: 1 - I never RDM'd anyone 2 - Therefore, I did not revenge RDM anyone 3 - I never used 'homophobic language' Here's what happened. I'm not gonna go into much detail on the first part because it's basically his word against mine until an admin (who couldn't bother to post on the ban request for some reason even though this guy IIZard broke several of the server rules, including "Targetting the same player to make them rage" or "Trolling") joined the server. ttt_crummy_craddle, this guy IIZard killed me on my T round. I don't deny what he described on his ban request. I threw an incendiary on one of the two small elevator to kill the detective and two innocents (as a T might I remind you), and I think I accidentally let myself be seen by one of the innos on the elevator. IIZard, who's INSIDE the bar (the one with the wooden stools on it), proceeds to say something along these lines "I can just feel that sanic is the T". He then proceeds to gun me down right after. I start questioning right after why he killed me, he starts making up excuses "oh, I saw you throwing the incendiary", right next "oh, you were called out" (keeping in mind he killed me BEFORE I was called out). Like I said, this is his word against mine so I'm not gonna waste any more words on this issue. Then we get to the round where I supposedly "revenge rdm'd". IIZard is the T and a bunch of people including me and him are at the bar. (FIRST KILL) This other guy NeoHatake (who was already trolling the past round) starts throwing grenades inside the bar and one of them is an incendiary. The only reason it doesn't hit anyone is because everyone is having a massive orgy party at the bar's bathroom. However, I still killed him for it. Checked his body, inno. Whatever, if I had to I'd kill myself the round afterwards. I also need to mention that I hit some people in the process due to the fact that I was using a huge. I don't deny that either. Right next, while I'm checking the body, (SECOND KILL) I hear sniper shots behind me in my direction. And there was IIZard, holstered, right behind me, running away in the opposite direction. I gun him down, checked his body, T. (THIRD AND LAST KILL) Now to Booker's kill. I don't even know how to explain how it happened, so I'll try to sum it up: I was jumping on the water tower on the bottom part of the map, Booker outta nowhere spawned below me while I was already falling down so I crushed him. I know it sounds ridiculous and even I would not believe it so I took the slay for it (that's when the admin joined). You can check the damage logs or w/e in order to see that I fell on him. Fastfoward to the next round, me and IIZard are arguing with eachother. An admin who had NO CLUE of what had happened joins the server slays me without in any part of the process asking me anything. He stays on the server for a few rounds and even though IIZard is blatantly trolling he does nothing about it. Whenever I try to defend myself even if with harsh words (I was never racist or homophobic mind you), the admin went and said "sanic and IIZard, drop it you both". IIZard from now onwards until the map next starts harrassing me, typing down something 'witty' every time I got killed while both an inno and a T, not to mention he targetted me EVERY ROUND HE HAD T as his first kill, which is also breaking a rule. In this case it's not my words against his, you can check the damage logs and can ask whatever admin was on the server when it happened. He'd kill me, get caught for it, die and say "haha worth it at least I raped your ass". Now for the homophobic part: Do I even need to say anything? NeoHatake and IIZard were both arguing against me (more like trolling, as you can see in one of IIZard's screenshots, NeoHatake saying "Sanic so oversensitive"), so I asked ironically if NeoHatake would suck IIZard off some more because they were defending eachother so harshly. As you may see in the logs, I was never homophobic per say, I never called anyone a ****, I never called anyone gay, I simply said "go suck a dick". Now, if that's homophobic speech, half of the server needs to get banned already. Now, for the ban request. Your name in-game: sanic the hotdog Offender's name in-game: IIZard Date/Time of the offence: May 30 SteamID: STEAM_0:1:5816715 Server: TTT Any administrators on the server?: Yes What was the problem/offense?: Lying to admins, accusing me of being homophobic, trolling As I said in the title, this is both a ban appeal AND a ban request. I'm making this a ban request as well because I don't wanna bother making a different thread if the issue is already all written down here. However, if anyone feels this is inappropriate, I can move it to the 'ban request' section. If it's not already clear to whoever is reading this, I'm gonna break it down in parts: IIZard: 1 - Lied to admins about pretty much everything, including about me revenge rdming two people where if I DID have had revenge rdm'd I would only have done it to IIZard 2 - Took everything outta context to make me look bad 3 - Did not screenshot the parts where he's blatantly flaming and trolling me 4 - Broke several of the server rules, including trolling, flaming, targetting me constantly in order to try to make me rage, and disrespect (which I don't really mind since I trashtalked him back so w/e) 5 - Accused me of being homophobic when I never were I really wasn't gonna take this to the forums until IIZard made that ban request lying about everything and taking everything outta context. For further proof, ask the admin who was on when everything happened and check the chat logs.
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« on: January 23, 2013, 12:23:51 PM »
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« on: January 07, 2013, 04:43:50 AM »
I don't understand why people are saying telling the admins they are terrible isn't disrespect.
It is offensive and will only antagonize them. Admin chat is not a place to insult people.
That's because it isn't. It's constructive criticism at most. You shouldn't be bothered by it if you know it's not true. I got called a bad admin regularly when I was still one for slaying/banning people, I'm pretty sure most admins still do.
Again, I am sorry.
But no, there's nothing constructive about "horrible admin".
Where in there is anything constructive?
From my point of view at that time, you were an horrible admin. You could've: a- dismissed it and banned me if I kept on calling you one since THEN it would be spam or b- try to consider if there's anything wrong with you as an admin and try to get better. Oops, I forgot you can lock your own threads. I'll leave this thread open for further discussion until tomorrow if no one locks it (though I don't think there's anything left to discuss).
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« on: January 07, 2013, 04:41:07 AM »
Ok, after reading all this, I believe I did falsely ban.
I read the punishment standards many times, and was under the impression that a warning was sufficient enough for an hour ban.
I really did believe you we're spamming, and I apologize for the ban.
I hope you can forgive me.
Honestly? I don't care about the ban. I care about people who have no clue on how to manage things and/or who quickly jumping to conclusion without looking at the circustances first being given adminship. Similar situations have occured to me, it now has happened to you and will continue on occuring on rookies or even experienced admins because they're never really trained, if at all. I can't really believe you after having you lie in at least half of your posts, but I GUESS you didn't mean it. Like I've said, I was an admin once on this same community and similar things happened to me. Fortunately I had admins to help me. I suggest you either resign or look for more experienced admins to shape you up.
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« on: January 07, 2013, 04:35:26 AM »
I don't understand why people are saying telling the admins they are terrible isn't disrespect.
It is offensive and will only antagonize them. Admin chat is not a place to insult people.
That's because it isn't. It's constructive criticism at most. You shouldn't be bothered by it if you know it's not true. I got called a bad admin regularly when I was still one for slaying/banning people, I'm pretty sure most admins still do.
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« on: January 07, 2013, 04:09:51 AM »
Alright I checked the logs, this is what I see:
1) The death caused by Camper. The logs as you pointed out don't show the whole picture, and it must have been glitched cause both Leo and Doctor say you did not do it intentionally
2) Camper: Sort of spam but I have seen worse and it should have been a gag to stop, not a ban. I also disagree with your name choice, we all know what it means so you best not be playing on the server with that name.
3) Tyber: You sir are not telling the truth. There were not multiple warnings, there was one in chat (mic is another story, please ). You did not follow proper procedures, which is to gag, then warn about a ban, then the actual ban. You also banned him for spam and admin disrespect, not just spam like you claim.
4) Admins: Guys, you need to ask people why they rdmed. This slay/ban first, ask questions later is not how we do business. Use your heads please, you can tell when somebody is intentionally rdming, and when somebody has accidentally rdmed. I will blame myself for some of this, as I feel we really need a training program at this point, and I have not put much time into TTT cause of RL. Also saying terrible admins is not disrespect unless its repeated/spammed.
Lets see what Tower and Inject have to say about this.
Gagging "since admin chat is a command" doesn't stop his ability to use it. And like I said, the admin disrespect added no time to the ban, I just thought I needed to add it.
Except it wasn't disrespect, and even then, its STILL a violation of protocol on your behalf. You don't ban for spam issues, and Old crow looked over the logs/Yankee's picture doesn't show at any point where you muted or gagged him.
Spam admin chat: Warning then ban for 1 hour.
Its in the punishment standards.
And thats what I read. I warned, I was actually gonna stop untill that disrespect, that (to me) showed clear spam.
Nowhere in the punishment standards does it say to gag before the warn/ban.
Sorry looking at regular rules, as I forgot you can't block out admin chat.
Point is I need to know more about was there a warning over mic, cause one half hearted attempt in chat, for something that really isn't spam, is too far for a ban, even an hour one.
again, calling over chat terrible admins once, isn't disrespectful. twice, or three times and then I can see it but once, not really. I believe the rule about admin disrespect needs to be changed, because its much too broad right now.
@Camper: Sorry, but you and me and everybodies mom knows what it means. Racism is racism and it will not be tolerated.
Okay, so you might want to make clear that admins aren't immune to that rule. I'm not gonna point out names but they'll most likely read this (or already are) and they know what I'm talking about.
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« on: January 07, 2013, 03:57:21 AM »
I see a mis-slay for not getting the whole story, which doc has apologized for, and "big nicked digger" (who I assume is camperstrike) disobeying and disrespecting an admin on something he didn't have the whole story either. You were asked to hold your tongue, you didn't and insulted the admin. I see a just ban.
I never disobeyed anyone since I was never given an order in the first place. All the admins were saying besides the answer I got from Mr. The Doctor was "omg pls stop da spam kty". I never really disrespected anyone either. If the admin can't take criticism without going full ban-happy mode then he's not fit to be an admin. And yes, that was valid criticism. I didn't go on the chat and typed out shit like "hey go fuck yourself you ****got kill yourself".
I said stop spamming ( It's right up there if you want to deny) and saying "terrible admin" is not criticism, it's disrespect.
Oh and the words "rdming" is nowhere in my ban.
I never did. You're claiming I'm the one lying when in reality you're the one who keep spewing lies nonstop. It's right at the original post where I said that you asked me to stop spamming. "Terrible admin" isn't disrespect, specially when I had the reason for calling you one. Stop being oversensitive. Oh, so you do admit that you DID ban me for "disrespecting the admin"? You keep shooting your own feet. Thanks for proving my point.
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« on: January 07, 2013, 03:53:45 AM »
Alright I checked the logs, this is what I see:
1) The death caused by Camper. The logs as you pointed out don't show the whole picture, and it must have been glitched cause both Leo and Doctor say you did not do it intentionally
2) Camper: Sort of spam but I have seen worse and it should have been a gag to stop, not a ban. I also disagree with your name choice, we all know what it means so you best not be playing on the server with that name.
3) Tyber: You sir are not telling the truth. There were not multiple warnings, there was one in chat (mic is another story, please ). You did not follow proper procedures, which is to gag, then kick then ban for spam. You also banned him for spam and admin disrespect, not just spam like you claim.
4) Admins: Guys, you need to ask people why they rdmed. This slay/ban first, ask questions later is not how we do business. Use your heads please, you can tell when somebody is intentionally rdming, and when somebody has accidentally rdmed. I will blame myself for some of this, as I feel we really need a training program at this point, and I have not put much time into TTT cause of RL. Also saying terrible admins is not disrespect unless its repeated/spammed.
Lets see what Tower and Inject have to say about this.
Dude, c'mon. I was not spamming. Maybe I was sending out messages rather fast but they were relevant to the discussion/subject, except for the last part in which I called Tyber a terrible admin. The name doesn't 'mean' anything. Really, I can understand why maybe someone VERY sensitive would find this offensive but it literally doesn't mean anything. Anyone could interpretate any nickname whatever way they wanted to. I do respect the server rules though so I won't be joining it again with a similar name (if I ever rejoin it).
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« on: January 07, 2013, 03:45:05 AM »
I see a mis-slay for not getting the whole story, which doc has apologized for, and "big nicked digger" (who I assume is camperstrike) disobeying and disrespecting an admin on something he didn't have the whole story either. You were asked to hold your tongue, you didn't and insulted the admin. I see a just ban.
I never disobeyed anyone since I was never given an order in the first place. All the admins were saying besides the answer I got from Mr. The Doctor was "omg pls stop da spam kty". I never really disrespected anyone either. If the admin can't take criticism without going full ban-happy mode then he's not fit to be an admin. And yes, that was valid criticism. I didn't go on the chat and typed out shit like "hey go fuck yourself you ****got kill yourself".
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« on: January 07, 2013, 03:35:47 AM »
This could go both ways. Heres the logs for the chat. I think he didnt need the slay after looking at it, but he did slightly spam. A mute would have worked just as well, but it was spaming admin chat. I didnt slay or ban here so talk to those two.
Thank you. I forgot about the "2 messages isn't spamming" message, my mistake.
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« on: January 07, 2013, 03:32:08 AM »
I was not the one who banned you, nor did I agree with the ban. I will admit that the slay was a mistake. I was going based solely off the logs which indicated you had slowly damaged the detective to killing him, which made me think it it was on purpose, the map/player damage mixup did not even come to my mind. I did ask immediately before the map change, and did not think to ask again after. I also happened to not be paying much attention the the round after, thinking the other admins would be capable of handling any other issues. I'm sorry for the slay. Believe it or not this doesn't happen on a regular basis. The slay was an honest mistake from a lapse in judgement and bad timing, take it as you will.
Okay, then ignore the whole part where I directed my anger to you. I thought you were the one who asked me to stop spamming nonstop and the one who banned me. Honestly I'm not saying you're lying but I never saw anyone after the round was done, specially since the map was changing when it occured. Again, I'm not saying you're lying. I could've missed it. But you could have at least asked me again (assuming you did in the first place) since the map changed.
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« on: January 07, 2013, 03:26:18 AM »
First) Me AND Yankees gave SEVERAL warning to stop spamming admin chat.
Second) I didn't ban you for admin disrespect, I banned for admin chat spam and it was only for an hour since muting doesn't take away your ability to use admin chat, I simply added the Admin Disrespect because I really don't know, I thought it should be in there as well (note the admin disrespect brought NO EXTRA TIME ON BAN).
Third) Why would you keep typing in admin chat when we told you to stop. You should have waited untill either next round or untill one of us died to ask after we warned the first time.
Fourth) You're lieing. Ask Tower or anyone to check logs, after the first or second message I (and yankees) said you were slain for rdming your D buddy (we had no part in the slay, we asked doctor why you were slain and thats what he said). You then continued to ask, we gave warnings, you direspected with that nice little insult, I banned.
The ban's only for an hour, as for doctor slaying I really have no clue as I was afk eating dinner that whole round.
I'm sick and tired of banning people for admin chat spam. It's simple, when we warn you to stop, you stop. I've had to ban like 4-5 people this week alone for this annoyance.
Oh boy, here we go. 1 - You did, didn't ya? Problem is I NEVER SPAMMED. Learn what the fucking term means. 2 - Yes you did. Check the bans section or whatever. Stop fucking lying. I regret so much not screencapping the ban reason/chat log, I knew someone was gonna lie their way through this. The ban reason CLEARLY stated "Ban reason: admin disrespect; rdming". Again, I NEVER SPAMMED. 3 - What the fuck. Are you serious? That's what the admin chat is for. FOR COMMUNICATING WITH ADMINS. Yeah, quite shocking for you I believe. 4 - "You're lying"... in exactly what? You just repeated everything I typed on my first post. Also you can't check logs after a round if the next round begins. Also, you don't ban people for spamming specially when they send you a couple of messages ASKING WHY THEY WERE SLAIN. Also... no, fuck this. I'm not here to educate you in being a decent admin. Ask Tower to train you. 5 - It doesn't matter if it was for an hour or for a century. It was still abuse. 6 - You're still a terrible admin.
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