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« on: August 18, 2011, 06:14:27 PM »
I guess you people are forgetting something,
Kwaurtz was banned multiple times, and the last one was PERMA because of the multiple infractions.
The entire point of a perma ban is so that it is PERMANENT. Pretty straight forward, the only reason this ban should ever be appealed is if the reciever of the ban felt it was given in injustice, which it wasn't. Now, I have sympathy for Kwaurtz, I do, if he was only banned for say, a year, i'd agree to give him another chance. But that is not the case, he was permanently banned, and therefor should NOT be un-banned. This whole 'give him another chance' thing doesn't fly with me, he's had plenty of chances, and plenty of times he's claimed to change. Nothing has happened. From my personal experience with communities, I have found that people who troll, are going to troll, people who WANT power, are going to find some way to it, regardless of how hard on him we are. I've had good friends, turn on my because they had 'changed' but eventually fell back down to their old level when they got comfortable.
I'm sorry Kwuartz, but i'm going to have to say no. CG needs to stand by it's perma-bans.
(Oh, Caesar, the majority of people we perma-ban DO come running back after a while, and asked to be unbanned, Kwuartz doesn't have the balls you think, in fact, NO body on here does, it's the internet. Not a testicular mass contest)
I was never banned multiple times. You're pulling facts out of the void on this one. I've been removed from admin before, but never was I banned. I went straight to permaban, so as far as bans are concerned, there wasn't multiple chances, this would be the first redemption from a ban. As for power, if you would read, I'm not here to run for admin, I'm here to play games with people I know. I sat on vent the past two days and I played some games with some of the guys there, I even reinstalled killing floor because someone on vent had asked me to. Sure, I've said I've changed in the past, but I wasn't previously exiled for a couple of months, I was merely removed or had resigned from admin.
So please, if you are going to come and argue against my appeal, do not pull some random fact or statistic from the nether. I was never banned, this was the first time.
And for a point of clairification, Caesar has been gaming with me for a while on Heroes of Newerth, if anyone could vouch for my new attitude towards things, it would be him.
I didn't pull it out of void, many people have said you have been banned multiple times, many different people on different occasions. And if that didn't happen, i'm sorry, I was ill informed. The thing about power wasn't that you were here for power, but that people tend to go back to their old ways even after change. Rarely does a person actually change, and when I say rarely, I mean almost never, especially since this is the internet. The majority of the time, people just put on their mask and pretend to be different until people are comfortable with them, then they take the mask off.
Just because your attitude is different doesn't mean you are, it also doesn't mean that you will stay in that attitude.
My point is, in short, unless the ban was unjustly given, it should remain, since it was a permanent ban, meaning you will never be un-banned. Nothing is stopping you from playing with CG members, but as far as using our servers, and using our ventrilo, you SHOULD be banned from that due to past events. Just because you have changed doesn't mean you didn't do the things you did in the past, they're still there, and still count.
Personally, I have nothing against you Kwaurtz, we bucked heads every now and then, but I could care less if you were here. But I am a strong believer in consistency, and following a set out structure. If we can't even keep a ban on a single person when they come back and claim to have changed, what reason did we ban them for in the first place?
I'm not saying my ban is unjust, but it doesn't say that the ban appeal's section is about appealing unfair bans. It has been used in the past to appeal bans that were just as well. I'm here to do just that. I'm not asking for much, just an opportunity to play on a server that I had dedicated a lot to at one point in time. I don't have to wear the CG tag if its not wanted. CG servers are the best, and have been, because of its community. I just want a chance to return to that.
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« on: August 18, 2011, 05:00:40 PM »
I guess you people are forgetting something,
Kwaurtz was banned multiple times, and the last one was PERMA because of the multiple infractions.
The entire point of a perma ban is so that it is PERMANENT. Pretty straight forward, the only reason this ban should ever be appealed is if the reciever of the ban felt it was given in injustice, which it wasn't. Now, I have sympathy for Kwaurtz, I do, if he was only banned for say, a year, i'd agree to give him another chance. But that is not the case, he was permanently banned, and therefor should NOT be un-banned. This whole 'give him another chance' thing doesn't fly with me, he's had plenty of chances, and plenty of times he's claimed to change. Nothing has happened. From my personal experience with communities, I have found that people who troll, are going to troll, people who WANT power, are going to find some way to it, regardless of how hard on him we are. I've had good friends, turn on my because they had 'changed' but eventually fell back down to their old level when they got comfortable.
I'm sorry Kwuartz, but i'm going to have to say no. CG needs to stand by it's perma-bans.
(Oh, Caesar, the majority of people we perma-ban DO come running back after a while, and asked to be unbanned, Kwuartz doesn't have the balls you think, in fact, NO body on here does, it's the internet. Not a testicular mass contest)
I was never banned multiple times. You're pulling facts out of the void on this one. I've been removed from admin before, but never was I banned. I went straight to permaban, so as far as bans are concerned, there wasn't multiple chances, this would be the first redemption from a ban. As for power, if you would read, I'm not here to run for admin, I'm here to play games with people I know. I sat on vent the past two days and I played some games with some of the guys there, I even reinstalled killing floor because someone on vent had asked me to. Sure, I've said I've changed in the past, but I wasn't previously exiled for a couple of months, I was merely removed or had resigned from admin. So please, if you are going to come and argue against my appeal, do not pull some random fact or statistic from the nether. I was never banned, this was the first time. And for a point of clairification, Caesar has been gaming with me for a while on Heroes of Newerth, if anyone could vouch for my new attitude towards things, it would be him.
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« on: August 18, 2011, 02:15:58 AM »
If my intentions were truly those of malice then I wouldn't be here trying to appeal the ban, would I? I don't have to be a part of CG if I wanted it to look bad, I could simply dawn a cg tag and run about doing anything I wanted. Instead, I'm here, on knees, asking for forgiveness. CG was something I had put money, time, and effort into.
I've had alot of shit happen to me recently thats made me try to go back and make amends with any bridges that may have been burned within the past year or two. Karma finally caught up.
Like I have previously stated, I've got no credibility here, and if I were truly enthralled with malicious intent, I would not be here, trying to do this, I could satiate that feeling without doing this.
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« on: August 17, 2011, 05:00:17 PM »
I don't know that film. I want to come back because I had lost something that brought me some kind of happiness in a fucked up kind of way. CG was a place where I could have fun. Yeah, I was permabanned, the only reason I'm posting this ban appeal is because I was told to on vent. I didn't even know my IP had changed. As to why you should let me back in?
I learned my lesson.
I was a dick, I was an asshole, I fucked up something good I had.
But being away for the time I was gone, I learned how to deal with myself and my anger issues. I could sit here and tell you I matured and all that jazz, but I have no credibility.
I was hoping that me even trying to post this should show you my intentions. Let me earn my credibility. Whether than have me explain to you how I've changed, let me back, try it out, see for yourself. Having a first hand experience with something is better than being told.
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« on: August 17, 2011, 04:53:41 PM »
I forgive. Brohug? 
Brohug.
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« on: August 17, 2011, 04:45:03 PM »
Who were you banned by: (=CG=)Wholegrain
Why were you banned:
* Trolling
* Hacking/DDosing (zcc server a while back) which is why we got ddosed attack for a month straight
* Flaming
* 3 admin abuses where he was removed on 3 seperate occasions ( 1 he did resign ) (NOTE this is not a reason to be banned but it is just something that shows that Kwaurtz was a bad apple)
* Corruption of power (when he was head admin for a few servers mainy abuses took place this is basically admin abuse on a higher level same charge however)
* Minging/trolling the World Domination Forums where Remscar went (if anyone remembers from a while ago) the incident that Kwaurtz started nearly sparked a fight between the communities and they were about to ddos us
* Trolling Battle Ground servers using the CG tag while trolling (I need to go to that community and apologize)
* Attempting to actively recruit members to leave CG using CG resources (recruiting members through our vent from CG) basically attempting to undermine CG
What server where you banned from: Everything
What date and/or time around were you banned:
April 30th
Steam ID:I don't even remember how to look it up
Your in game name:Kwaurtz
Link to your steam page:
Additional comments:
Yeah, I fucked up.
Thats what I have to say, I fucked up, and I suffered for it. I've been gone since April. I deleted all of my steam games and steam after I got banned, I kinda withdrew and just got put into a rut. Being banned from CG honestly did hurt, as terrible as that sounds. I had friends here, and I fucked them over. I know I wasn't liked by a lot of the people when I was banned. Bored, I went onto vent the other day, and I was just talking with the guys. Nobody had any intent to ban me, nobody cared that I was there. I'm not here to troll CG, I'm not here to be an admin, I'm not here to be an asshole, I'm not here to DDoS or start any wars. I'm here to play games with some guys I can talk to and have fun.
I'm sorry.
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« on: August 17, 2011, 04:22:05 PM »
mi nombre is el-kwaurtzo 
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