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Title: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 08:52:15 PM
Who were you banned by:An admin

Why were you banned:A reason (really don't know i fell asleep)

What server where you banned from: ttt

What date and/or time around were you banned: april 26 2013

Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:55825612

Your in game name: CPT TacticalError/TacticalError

Link to your steam page: http://steamcommunity.com/id/TacError

Additional comments: disapointed
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: SkiesAhoy on May 02, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
You were supposed to edit your post in the thread you had already made, not make a new one. The old one is deleted now.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 09:26:05 PM
oh... sorry
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 09:56:59 PM
can someone please help
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: SkiesAhoy on May 02, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
Tactical Error, you're gnawing at my patience. You clearly didn't bother reading the rules, or you would not have posted in the wrong format and you would not be double posting now.

A server administrator will take care of your ban appeal soon enough. Being impatient about it going to do nothing for you. Nothing good.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 10:40:01 PM
Sorry. im just upset because i wanna play TTT but i cant... And also this is the best server on garrys mod.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on May 02, 2013, 10:57:36 PM
You were permanently banned by Andre for multiple rounds of multiple and leave. All the server logs were wiped up until yesterday so I can't confirm what exactly happened.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: UnknownError on May 02, 2013, 11:05:24 PM
uh... something that severe should be careful to deal with. He didn't cause problems when I was on with him.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 11:07:31 PM
well i fell asleep... my bros could have done it... i have 2
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 11:09:41 PM
I have always been a good member of conjoint. i mean yeah sure i RDM cuz of false callout or hes and RDM but i have never RDMed just to do it.
And i love conjoint. they have amazing admins.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Muffins on May 02, 2013, 11:13:58 PM
I think he is lieing, andre is one of our long time admins and I know he wouldn't perma someone with a good reason like multiple round of rdm and leave.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 11:15:45 PM
I fell asleep. My bros probably RDMed... I love conjoint.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 11:18:36 PM
And also. what reason would i have to RDM.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: ๖ۣۜNexus on May 02, 2013, 11:27:01 PM
I fell asleep. My bros probably RDMed... I love conjoint.

Whether or not this claim is true does not lighten any consequence. You and you alone are liable for anything that happens with your account on our servers. If it is true that your "bros" RDMed, it doesn't get you off the hook. If you do get unbanned, attempt to restrict access to others getting a hold of what could potentially get you banned.

The reason for which you were supposedly punished for is not a taken lightly. I for one haven't imaged you as an RDMer and wouldn't expect something like this from you, from what I've experienced at least. A bit shocking.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Blackllama on May 02, 2013, 11:29:13 PM
I think he is lieing, andre is one of our long time admins and I know he wouldn't perma someone with a good reason like multiple round of rdm and leave.
Mistakes can happen. That doesn't mean he did it.

If nobody can prove anything I think he should be unbanned.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 11:31:58 PM
Thank you nexus and lama. And nexus... i understand. if i RDM more that 2 people(without reason) you can ban me for two weeks
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: IsYn Wooley on May 02, 2013, 11:49:59 PM
Honestly that is one of the lamest excuses anyone can come up with.

I fell asleep with my computer on and my steam account up and unlocked.

FFS people your security in life is your own priority. The consequences that follow are also your own problem.

A simple Windows Key + L before you walk away from the keyboard could save you a day/week/perma ban.

Shutting the computer off (HEAVENS FORBID) No we wouldn't want to save some energy or anything like that -_- Or prevent needless wear and tear on our rigs.

I am the security Nazi...Being the Director of IT in my line of work if you walk away from your PC with it unlocked and I see it. You can bet your ass that all your desktop icons will be taken down and I will had first taken a screenshot then when you try clicking on shit you're all like WTF! until you realize its a picture of your icons on your desktop. Or maybe flip your screen upside down. -_-

Or change the command prompt to say Press Any key to shutdown and erase entire disk,,,

My last argument to trump any argument that has to do with well I let them play on my steam account sometimes so I guess they just got a little foolish.

EULA: you can't share your Steam account.

-1 for deban



Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 02, 2013, 11:58:13 PM
well.... some of us stay up late and fall asleep at our desks once in a while
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Cadaver on May 03, 2013, 12:15:15 AM
I fell asleep. My bros probably RDMed... I love conjoint.

Whether or not this claim is true does not lighten any consequence. You and you alone are liable for anything that happens with your account on our servers. If it is true that your "bros" RDMed, it doesn't get you off the hook. If you do get unbanned, attempt to restrict access to others getting a hold of what could potentially get you banned.

The reason for which you were supposedly punished for is not a taken lightly. I for one haven't imaged you as an RDMer and wouldn't expect something like this from you, from what I've experienced at least. A bit shocking.

Sigh.  It does not matter if your Brosefs did it.  You are responsible for your steam account.  It has a password for a reason.   Anyway, even if your brothers did it, the responsibility is yours alone.

We await Andre...
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: SkiesAhoy on May 03, 2013, 12:15:48 AM
TacticalError, you have consistently disregarded my previous message, which clearly stated that "double posting" is not allowed.

Your warning status is upped, added to mod watch list. Break forum rules again and you will be week banned from the forums, effectively disrupting any possibility of getting unbanned on our servers.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 03, 2013, 12:18:42 AM
skies. i mealy added something that i left out. Is that a crime? And Cadaver garrys mod was open when i fell asleep. so password wouldn't have helped.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: SkiesAhoy on May 03, 2013, 12:20:54 AM
skies. i mealy added something that i left out. Is that a crime? And Cadaver garrys mod was open when i fell asleep. so password wouldn't have helped.

Not a crime. It's a forum rule violation. I suggest you read them (Rule 25): http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=4404.0

And if you wish to add something you previously left out, use the "Modify" button. Don't make double posts.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Cadaver on May 03, 2013, 12:22:29 AM
You misread my point.  Point is you are responsible. You. Not your bothers.  You. So, even if they did it, it was your account, so you get the benefit of their actions.

Fun, isn't it?
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: TacticalError on May 03, 2013, 12:25:09 AM
Oh yes... getting banned from my favorite server by actions that i didn't do. i mean ill accept some sort of very strict limitations if you let me. 9like no sleeping) and ill do anything to get back.  oh and thank you skies for the advice. see i just used that tool
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: theyankees213 on May 03, 2013, 12:54:17 AM
Tactical I like playing with you. But watch your tone. Don't get smart with the people who decide your fate. I strongly suggest you do watch yourself or I have a feeling that I won't get to play with you again.

On the actual ban, I've never had problems with him, so it's really up to what Andre saw.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: SkiesAhoy on May 03, 2013, 01:13:50 AM
TacticalError, you will be taking a posting vacation until the admin involved in your game server ban joins and clears things up for us. You should not have made a poll, not after the recent warnings. This is not up to random, popular vote. I told you to be patient and you weren't.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: (QC) Spell Bound on May 03, 2013, 02:52:22 AM
It's like being drunk, except you weren't drunk.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Leetgrain on May 03, 2013, 05:43:27 AM
Welp this seems like all lame bull, like most have pointed out here it's nobodies fault but yours if you were "sleeping at your desk" with your steam account still there, have your brother somehow move you off of the desk, and then on some random coincidence plays on the Conjoint Gaming servers.

I'd actually probably have a heart attack because of the shock if this really was true.

Also, some things I'd like to point out:
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well.... some of us stay up late and fall asleep at our desks once in a while
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I fell asleep. My bros probably RDMed... I love conjoint.
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... And Cadaver garrys mod was open when i fell asleep. so password wouldn't have helped.
I think you can see what I'm getting at.

P.S: Saying that you love CG in every post won't help, the amount of times you've said it, it just loses any whatsoever meaning and makes it seem like you're just trying to use it as leverage to get unbanned.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Phoenix on May 03, 2013, 07:27:35 AM
Welp this seems like all lame bull, like most have pointed out here it's nobodies fault but yours if you were "sleeping at your desk" with your steam account still there, have you brother somehow move you off of the desk, and then on some random coincidence plays on the Conjoint Gaming servers.

I'd actually probably have a heart attack because of the shock if this was really true.

Some things I'd like to point out:
Quote
well.... some of us stay up late and fall asleep at our desks once in a while
Quote
I fell asleep. My bros probably RDMed... I love conjoint.
Quote
... And Cadaver garrys mod was open when i fell asleep. so password wouldn't have helped.
I think you can see what I'm getting at.

P.S: Saying that you love CG in every post won't help, the amount of times you've said it, it just loses any whatsoever meaning and makes it seem like you're just trying to use it as leverage to get unbanned.

leets got a good point there, and if you were asleep at your desk your face would be on the keyboard(big chance) so the chance that your "brothers" did that is about 0.0001% if you even have brothers
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Pyro on May 03, 2013, 07:43:08 AM
Welp this seems like all lame bull, like most have pointed out here it's nobodies fault but yours if you were "sleeping at your desk" with your steam account still there, have you brother somehow move you off of the desk, and then on some random coincidence plays on the Conjoint Gaming servers.

I'd actually probably have a heart attack because of the shock if this was really true.

Some things I'd like to point out:
Quote
well.... some of us stay up late and fall asleep at our desks once in a while
Quote
I fell asleep. My bros probably RDMed... I love conjoint.
Quote
... And Cadaver garrys mod was open when i fell asleep. so password wouldn't have helped.
I think you can see what I'm getting at.

P.S: Saying that you love CG in every post won't help, the amount of times you've said it, it just loses any whatsoever meaning and makes it seem like you're just trying to use it as leverage to get unbanned.

leets got a good point there, and if you were asleep at your desk your face would be on the keyboard(big chance) so the chance that your "brothers" did that is about 0.0001% if you even have brothers

Maybe if he passed out... Who the heck lays their head on the keyboard when they want to sleep, I'd rather lay down my head on my arm and dream away.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Link236 on May 03, 2013, 09:07:41 AM
-1

The excuse just doesn't physically make sense.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Xenomorph on May 03, 2013, 09:37:56 AM
Wait hold on a second... I was there when you were banned and I saw multiple rdms and I was one of the victims. Sorry for that quick snap but, like cadaver, your responsibility to keep your account out of other people's hands. I don't think he should get unbanned. Sorry.  You said "what reason would I have to rdm" right? Well its called random deathmatch for a reason. Its randomly done on servers for no valid reason. And just because you think it was your "brother" doesn't mean you didn't had amnesia or you were drunk? Honestly excuses like this makes yourself look even worst. Again sorry.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on May 03, 2013, 04:41:45 PM
This is not the place for accusations nor the place for people to invent their own explanations. This is the place for people to state what happened to result in the ban. I don't want any more posts unless it is relevant to event leading up to the ban.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Andredem on May 05, 2013, 01:27:12 AM
You weren't talking and it was odd, you were rdming every round atleast twice or maybe three rounds, every time I checked the logs.

Then you rdmed 2 and left. I figured it was time for you to go
 
Or possibly it was your brother

However, you or your brother may of seriously just made me lose my admin because I was positive I took screenshots and OF COURSE there aren't any screenshots. I remember we were on Roy and the first 2 rounds of rdm happened on island, and I remember looking back through the console and trying to see if I could get the evidence scrolled up as far... Why isn't there any screenshots in my steam profile for this? Why?

This is the first time I've ever forgotten to take screen shots for a permenent ban..

I can only swear on my word that I banned the right person for the right reason

Damn it Andre



Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Blackllama on May 05, 2013, 01:31:26 AM
You weren't talking and it was odd, you were rdming every round atleast twice or maybe three rounds, every time I checked the logs.

Then you rdmed 2 and left. I figured it was time for you to go
 
Or possibly it was your brother

However, you or your brother may of seriously just made me lose my admin because I was positive I took screenshots and OF COURSE there aren't any screenshots. I remember we were on Roy and the first 2 rounds of rdm happened on island, and I remember looking back through the console and trying to see if I could get the evidence scrolled up as far... Why isn't there any screenshots in my steam profile for this? Why?

I need to seriously make it a permanent habit for me to screen shot every evidence before I permanent ban, this is the second time its happened.. and it's only started happening recently. I never had a problem with this before.

I can only swear on my word that I banned the right person for the right reason

Damn it Andre
I believe screenshots are saved to the harddrive somewhere if you don't delete them. Try googling around, I don't remember where.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Andredem on May 05, 2013, 01:36:10 AM
You weren't talking and it was odd, you were rdming every round atleast twice or maybe three rounds, every time I checked the logs.

Then you rdmed 2 and left. I figured it was time for you to go
 
Or possibly it was your brother

However, you or your brother may of seriously just made me lose my admin because I was positive I took screenshots and OF COURSE there aren't any screenshots. I remember we were on Roy and the first 2 rounds of rdm happened on island, and I remember looking back through the console and trying to see if I could get the evidence scrolled up as far... Why isn't there any screenshots in my steam profile for this? Why?

I need to seriously make it a permanent habit for me to screen shot every evidence before I permanent ban, this is the second time its happened.. and it's only started happening recently. I never had a problem with this before.

I can only swear on my word that I banned the right person for the right reason

Damn it Andre
I believe screenshots are saved to the harddrive somewhere if you don't delete them. Try googling around, I don't remember where.

I just checked the file, its the same. I forgot to take the screenshots

Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: SkiesAhoy on May 05, 2013, 05:30:09 AM
If anything is at risk here Andre, it's his ban status. I don't think this is a scenario deserving of demotion. We are all human, we all make mistakes. Sometimes things simply slip.
The more present issue is: Can this man remain banned, if there is no "sturdy", plain evidence to account for his wrongdoings? Well, on a first glance, I'd say no. Then again, there are multiple witness reports of misbehavior. Throughout his application, TacticalError has provided us with flimsy excuses at most to justify his behavior. His drive to reckless posting even earned him a day ban from the forums. If all this should be taken into consideration, I'd say the ban is deserved.
It ultimately comes down to Cortez. The information is on the table, in my opinion. All there remains is a decision to be made.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: oobla37 on May 05, 2013, 06:27:17 AM
You weren't talking and it was odd, you were rdming every round atleast twice or maybe three rounds, every time I checked the logs.

Then you rdmed 2 and left. I figured it was time for you to go
 
Or possibly it was your brother

However, you or your brother may of seriously just made me lose my admin because I was positive I took screenshots and OF COURSE there aren't any screenshots. I remember we were on Roy and the first 2 rounds of rdm happened on island, and I remember looking back through the console and trying to see if I could get the evidence scrolled up as far... Why isn't there any screenshots in my steam profile for this? Why?

This is the first time I've ever forgotten to take screen shots for a permenent ban..

I can only swear on my word that I banned the right person for the right reason

Damn it Andre

Dude, if you honestly screwed up on something like this, it's no big deal, no one will be upset. You might be told to just check your stuff next time, and be a little more cautious, but Cortez is an understanding dude. I mean, damn, even towersheep was a super understanding dude. You want to see something that gets you removed? Check this.
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=8798.0 this is something that gets you removed. Not accidentally banning someone. Don't be so hard on yourself, you're a great admin.
Title: Re: banned with no reason
Post by: Cortez (Mr. T. FOO!) on May 05, 2013, 11:40:21 AM
There is a lot to consider in this thread but the simple fact that your excuses are somewhat illogical ruin a lot of the legitimacy to your unban request. Although there is no evidence against you I think in this instance I can take the word of my admins. Ban appeal denied, thread locked.
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