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CG Administration Section => Ban Appeal => Solved Ban Appeals => Topic started by: Kacey on April 26, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
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Who were you banned by:
Nexus
Why were you banned:
Mass propkill/being a douche
What server where you banned from:
TTT
What date and/or time around were you banned:
March 24th 2013 (last month)
Steam ID:
STEAM_0:1:24770504
Your in game name:
Kacey
Link to your steam page:
http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/TTPKacey
Additional comments:
I was banned last month for Mass Propkilling. Yeah, I know, I was a douche in my first unban request and I realize now that I shouldn't just jump at a chance to manipulate the rules. I stuck around and played on the Hidden server a little (at least I did at my last LAN... I don't remember the last time I was on the Hidden alone) and the only real reason I kept doing it was because I was bored of TTT and it was amusing. I stopped playing Gmod almost entirely after my ban and after a month and now wanting to play TTT again I ask to come back. I was going to wait until June to appeal but I'm really starting to miss playing here.
I understand that propkilling's bad now and I'm not going to do it again, mark my words. I'll abide by the rules as normal. If I ever do propkill again I'll gladly accept the ban, I just want to come back.
Thanks,
Kacey.
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CG Tests How Permanent, "permanent" Bans Really Are: The Thread.
Start.
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Well, permanent is permanent. I would put my foot down on that, but he did prove himself mature enough a little bit ago. He thought it was ok for him to be on the server, was told no, so he left. Instead of continuing to exploit the ulx fiasco, he was mature enough to step down and leave the server. He apologized for the miscommunication, and left the server. Shows good intentions to me, he stuck around after a permaban.
However, I say we start enforcing, for real this time, that permanent is permanent. If we must, let kacey back in, and then say permanent is permanent... forever...
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However, I say we start enforcing, for real this time, that permanent is permanent. If we must, let kacey back in, and then say permanent is permanent... forever...
There's always going to be an exception.
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However, I say we start enforcing, for real this time, that permanent is permanent. If we must, let kacey back in, and then say permanent is permanent... forever...
There's always going to be an exception.
Black is right. The only way I could conceive of a truly "permanent" ban is to have some in-between time aka three to six month bans
And of course CG wide permabans cannot be lifted unless certain conditions are met.
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However, I say we start enforcing, for real this time, that permanent is permanent. If we must, let kacey back in, and then say permanent is permanent... forever...
There's always going to be an exception.
Black is right. The only way I could conceive of a truly "permanent" ban is to have some in-between time aka three to six month bans
And of course CG wide permabans cannot be lifted unless certain conditions are met.
I actually wrote that and then deleted it. How about we have 1-2 month bans that cover most of everything that is permabanable (aside from hacking, rdmx6, ghosting, etc.) as such, 1-2 months should be enough to discourage anyone from rdming on our server again. Also, if you have a previous month ban on our server, getting another one is a harsher ban, getting 2-3 month long+ bans is perma. That is my proposed idea, and we can finally call permanent permanent, no exceptions.
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Its a thought Oobla, but lets save it for another time shall we.
Onward with the discussion. Should Kacey be unbanned?
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Well, I suppose I should stand by my thought as of now, so I'll clarify my standpoint. Permanent is permanent.
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And of course CG wide permabans cannot be lifted unless certain conditions are met.
I don't recall Kacey have a CG wide Permaban. Merely TTT...
Back on topic I'm at a iffy for the unban right now. I'll probably have a side tomorrow
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And of course CG wide permabans cannot be lifted unless certain conditions are met.
I don't recall Kacey have a CG wide Permaban. Merely TTT...
Back on topic I'm at a iffy for the unban right now. I'll probably have a side tomorrow
No that was merely a response to the "perma is perma", not in direct reference to Kacey.
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I give him one chance. I hope he is mature, and when he wasn't being a jerk with props, he was kinda funny and cool.
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30)
I'd like to remind everyone of this thread and I invite you to reread it.
I vote no.
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The amount of fucks I don't give.
Why do we let people come back after rage-quitting?
For some reason Xeno got to come back and he rage-quit TWICE
We are getting too lenient on this stuff.
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i really don't think the perma was necessary, yes he prop killed at least 5 people within 3 maps, but they were fights (people throwing props at him, him throwing props) Maybe if he just walked around with a barrel and killed 5+ people in a single round id say nay but there has definitely been worse people
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i really don't think the perma was necessary, yes he prop killed at least 5 people within 3 maps, but they were fights (people throwing props at him, him throwing props) Maybe if he just walked around with a barrel and killed 5+ people in a single round id say nay but there has definitely been worse people
It was perma because he was a REPEAT offender, he did this same thing multiple times, he was a notorious propkiller. I don't even play TTT and I knew this from everyone complaining, and from reading the ban request/appeal threads.
edit: added quote
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The amount of fucks I don't give.
Why do we let people come back after rage-quitting?
For some reason Xeno got to come back and he rage-quit TWICE
We are getting too lenient on this stuff.
I don't think what Kacey did was determined to be a rage quit, otherwise he'd be banned everywhere.
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30)
I'd like to remind everyone of this thread and I invite you to reread it.
I vote no.
I also vote no.
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Honestly, I don't see any harm in giving him one more chance.
If he prop kills a single person just reperma him. Worst case someone gets RDM'd.
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30)
I'd like to remind everyone of this thread and I invite you to reread it.
I vote no.
If he truly repents and is sorry, why not let him back but on double probation?
Edit: If you don't know what animal house is I'm basically saying he get watched closely.
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I vote no, we have and had the rules up on display for everyone to see, if someone repeats and repeats, they get permabanned.
We really need to start enforcing this supposed perma-ban.
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^ This exactly.
Anyone can say they changed.
If hitler said he'd changed, would you believe him? I'm not saying kacey is hitler, but you can't just say you've changed. AFAIK, he hasn't been community-Pbanned, so he needs to show he has changed on some of Conjoint's other servers, where there no offenses against him. Once he has evidence to back up the fact he has changed, then I think the lifting of the ban could be considered.
Plus, a Pban is a Pban. He knew the consequences and repeatedly broke the rules. If we let him off, we have to let everyone off. We can't make special exceptions. The rules are the rules and that's that. Giving people another chance just shows them that if they ask enough, and act like something's changed, then, eventually, they'll be given in to.
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30)
I'd like to remind everyone of this thread and I invite you to reread it.
I vote no.
If he truly repents and is sorry, why not let him back but on double probation?
Edit: If you don't know what animal house is I'm basically saying he get watched closely.
As the former Dean of TTT, I do not believe a double-secret probation violation (perma-ban) should be revoked
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http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30 (http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.30)
I'd like to remind everyone of this thread and I invite you to reread it.
I vote no.
If he truly repents and is sorry, why not let him back but on double probation?
Edit: If you don't know what animal house is I'm basically saying he get watched closely.
As the former Dean of TTT, I do not believe a double-secret probation violation (perma-ban) should be revoked
I never knew he was on double-secret probation before perma ban.
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Kacey, you knew it was against the rules to prop kill, you got in trouble eventually, you got perma'd. In all honesty, I don't care if you have "changed" there needs to be consequences for your actions.
I have to agree with Link's "Hitler" analogy. Not saying your hitler, but if someone commits a crime and all they have to defend their self with is "I've changed" they still have to be punished for their crimes.
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Jesus guys, this is a gaming community, I personnaly seen Kacey change since he did feel sorry for his errors after the perma ban, How much harm would it make to let him have a second chance. If a kid commits a crime, would you let him go to jail or give him an extra chance to prove himself worthy to come back to society. I say let him have his second chance, if he blows it, then too bad.
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Jesus guys, this is a gaming community, I personnaly seen Kacey change since he did feel sorry for his errors after the perma ban, How much harm would it make to let him have a second chance. If a kid commits a crime, would you let him go to jail or give him an extra chance to prove himself worthy to come back to society. I say let him have his second chance, if he blows it, then too bad.
That WAS his second chance. If I remember correctly he almost got perma'd before the incident, but they let him go. Kid or not, you have rules to follow. If you dont follow those rules, You face the consequences.
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Jesus guys, this is a gaming community, I personnaly seen Kacey change since he did feel sorry for his errors after the perma ban, How much harm would it make to let him have a second chance. If a kid commits a crime, would you let him go to jail or give him an extra chance to prove himself worthy to come back to society. I say let him have his second chance, if he blows it, then too bad.
That WAS his second chance. If I remember correctly he almost got perma'd before the incident, but they let him go. Kid or not, you have rules to follow. If you dont follow those rules, You face the consequences.
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Jesus guys, this is a gaming community, I personnaly seen Kacey change since he did feel sorry for his errors after the perma ban, How much harm would it make to let him have a second chance. If a kid commits a crime, would you let him go to jail or give him an extra chance to prove himself worthy to come back to society. I say let him have his second chance, if he blows it, then too bad.
That WAS his second chance. If I remember correctly he almost got perma'd before the incident, but they let him go. Kid or not, you have rules to follow. If you dont follow those rules, You face the consequences.
I have to do some research on that, I only see one perma ban, but hey , I'm not his lawyer, all I know is that I was once a little minge back when I had first joined the community , no one would accept my admin app. and I was a squeaky player. ( That was in 2009 or 2010). But then I made efforts to make sure I won't get in trouble. It's up to Kacey to decide what he can accomplish, chances or not, we have to start seeing progress. I'm not saying we can simply let him go off the hook, but if I see enough will from him to actually leave his past, then he can certainly become a better player. You get my point?
Update: my admin app was in 2011, since I joined the forums, but I still played before.
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Jesus guys, this is a gaming community, I personnaly seen Kacey change since he did feel sorry for his errors after the perma ban, How much harm would it make to let him have a second chance. If a kid commits a crime, would you let him go to jail or give him an extra chance to prove himself worthy to come back to society. I say let him have his second chance, if he blows it, then too bad.
That WAS his second chance. If I remember correctly he almost got perma'd before the incident, but they let him go. Kid or not, you have rules to follow. If you dont follow those rules, You face the consequences.
I was banned by caboose once falsely for rem. His admin was suspended but I remained banned because I was also at fault.
It was a one week ban and I served it without argument.
Give me another chance and I can show you I'm not going to do it again.
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If I remember this all correctly.
You've been Perma-Banned twice and have a horrendously long record of Prop-Killing and RDMing which even after several warnings and smaller bans you continued to do.
Then when you were unbanned (I believe from a week long ban) you waiting about 1 - 2 days before jumping into a mass prop killing battle with several other people on the server. This is what lead to the current ban.
Following that, you made an unban request and if I recall correctly you seemed to have an attitude about the whole thing and eventually stated something along the lines "This ban isn't valid so unban me."
From what I've seen and heard you play nice and good when you know you're being watched, but the moment you're given the chance you begin prop-fighting and prop-rdming which are a big no-no here seeing as it's possibly the most grey area form of rule breaking.
We have no way to go check the logs to see if you're continuing to prop-kill and after how many times you've said "I won't propkill any more", "Just give me a chance I better now" your words and promises don't hold any value here. So I want to say, better safe than sorry.
You've had dozens of warnings from Admins all around the community and have been banned several times, even having a perma ban in the past and several close calls with other permas. You just don't seem to learn from the punishment and as I said it's too late to say "Just give me a chance, I'm better now."
You've said it so many times now and lied every time.
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Well, it's clear I'm not getting unbanned and that nobody here likes me. I give up.
Good luck with the servers, guys.
Well Kacey you have nobody but yourself to blame.
Ragequitting is against the rules as well. This may result in your permanent removal from the forums as well.
I'm not ragequitting. I'm giving up trying to be unbanned because it's clearly not going to happen. If it happens, great, but it most likely won't.
No Kacey, what you are doing is ragequitting.
This is locked. I would like Cortez and Cadaver to comment on this asap.
Just quoting what Old Crow had said in the previous ban appeal. This would seem like a permanent ban for both A: the Prop-killing and B: Ragequitting as well.
(The quote is on the third page, if you wish to look back at it.
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=9384.msg123625#msg123625 )
I did review the past ban appeal before, and I have played with you a couple of times, from this, I would like to say No on this as well.
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Death it later wasn't classified as rage quitting.
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As one of the admins that has played with you the most. I say No.
1 month after a supposed "permanent" ban is too short, especially since all the evidence was overwhelming. You had past issues and you said that you would improve, but you didn't.
A day after you got p-banned, I hopped on the server to admin and told some of our regulars that you've been banned for good. They responded positively saying "Finally!!" or something along those lines, meaning that you were probably continuing to prop kill when admins weren't on.
So, I would be more generous to an appeal, if you
1. Play on other CG servers, and show that you can behave well especially with those not from TTT
2. Make an appeal another 1-2 months after this one. (I don't know the specific rule about ban appeals sooo...)
Good luck in the future though.
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Here's the thing, you were warned a lot of times to stop propkilling by many different admins yet you continued to propkill. You were permanently banned for doing this and even when you knew that it might happen. I admire the maturity you have shown since then but that doesn't mean that permanent means two months or anything else, permanent means permanent. I'm going to leave this thread open for another day but as it stands the odds are stacked against you.
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I'm usually a very nice guy.
I also don't dislike Kacey, because honestly, I've never personally seen him break any rules.
But seriously people, permanent should mean permanent. He was given his chances.
And he blew 'em. Regardless of if he "changed" or not.
Either unban him and change the fucking rules on permanent bans, or he stays banned. Permanently.
Make up your minds.
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I think we should give him a chance, everyone can be forgiven.
If he fux up again, kick him back out...
He is sorry, if he didn't care he wouldn't come back to appeal.
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I think we should give him a chance, everyone can be forgiven.
If he fux up again, kick him back out...
He is sorry, if he didn't care he wouldn't come back to appeal.
Not necessarily true. A lot of people appeal not because they care, but because they realized that this server is just better than others.
Let's say you got kicked out of your country club. Everyone there is an ass, the food sucks, and you have to dress like a douchebag to get in there. But it's the only good country club in the state. All of the other ones are trashy and hold less renown. Of course, you're going to want to get back in, even if it's only to seem as important as every other country club member.
This may not be the case for Kacey (no pun intended) but how many times can one be given the benefit of the doubt? He propkills again, we ban him again. He appeals again in five months saying he's for real, and this entire process repeats itself.
Why don't we just leave this as it is, to serve as a reminder for anyone else that wants to go ahead and get themselves permanently banned?
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I think we should give him a chance, everyone can be forgiven.
If he fux up again, kick him back out...
He is sorry, if he didn't care he wouldn't come back to appeal.
Not necessarily true. A lot of people appeal not because they care, but because they realized that this server is just better than others.
Let's say you got kicked out of your country club. Everyone there is an ass, the food sucks, and you have to dress like a douchebag to get in there. But it's the only good country club in the state. All of the other ones are trashy and hold less renown. Of course, you're going to want to get back in, even if it's only to seem as important as every other country club member.
This may not be the case for Kacey (no pun intended) but how many times can one be given the benefit of the doubt? He propkills again, we ban him again. He appeals again in five months saying he's for real, and this entire process repeats itself.
Why don't we just leave this as it is, to serve as a reminder for anyone else that wants to go ahead and get themselves permanently banned?
I guess you're right...
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He's a repeat offender - key word here being repeat. He's done it again and again, and paid the consequences.
But still, he never learns.
He's had his straws, and he's had his chances, once you're on your last strike it doesn't matter how much you reason or beg, you're out.
This should be set down in stone now, it can't just keep changing every single time.
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Either unban him and change the fucking rules on permanent bans, or he stays banned. Permanently.
What rules?
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Either unban him and change the fucking rules on permanent bans, or he stays banned. Permanently.
What rules?
I don't even know, Blackllama. That's the problem. We have no rules on PERMANENT bans. You would imagine they're PERMANENT. But, no. Apparently not.
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After reading all the threads revolving around this, I am gonna post no, the permanent ban should stay permanent. I also agree to what oobla said about the month long bans. I also agree that permanent bans should STAY permanent, only being revoked if there isn't enough evidence or new evidence comes to light.
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Either unban him and change the fucking rules on permanent bans, or he stays banned. Permanently.
What rules?
I don't even know, Blackllama. That's the problem. We have no rules on PERMANENT bans. You would imagine they're PERMANENT. But, no. Apparently not.
This exactly what needs to come of this. I was going to mention, it but forgot...
Anyway, we really need a clause in the rules regarding permanent bans. If there's leeway if the person shows change or if it's permanent with no arguements. Atleast something, becuase if we give Kacey the benefit of the doubt here, were bending the rules. And if we bend the rules for one, we have to do it for all. We can't give special exceptions (unless it was a false ban) for one person. That just shows if you beg enough, the rules can be bent. And bending rules like this looks really bad. We need a guideline in place for things like this.
Again, just my 2¢
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After reading all the threads revolving around this, I am gonna post no, the permanent ban should stay permanent. I also agree to what oobla said about the month long bans. I also agree that permanent bans should STAY permanent, only being revoked if there isn't enough evidence or new evidence comes to light.
Yep, the original perma ban was appealed and then got denied. I don't understand why a second appeal should hold any weight in the first place.
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A permanent ban is something that isn't supposed to be taken lightly at all. Permanent bans should only be applied when the case is severe enough to an extent in which this type of ban is the most appropriate. Kacey, you have repeatedly prop-killed, even after warning, and done so numerous amounts of times. Many warnings were given and yet you continued to see how far you could take it under the impression that you were invincible. You had lied about what you done, attempted to insult, and even gave up on your first appeal. You may have changed your opinion of how much you actually wanted to return, but the point that you gave up on your first appeal shows that in the first place, you weren't sorry enough to fight for it. As said before permanent bans are given for a reason which is why, in the end, they are permanent. If we were to revoke this punishment just for you, out of forgiveness, the term permanent ban would never hold it's true meaning.
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A permanent ban is something that isn't supposed to be taken lightly at all. Permanent bans should only be applied when the case is severe enough to an extent in which this type of ban is the most appropriate. Kacey, you have repeatedly prop-killed, even after warning, and done so numerous amounts of times. Many warnings were given and yet you continued to see how far you could take it under the impression that you were invincible. You had lied about what you done, attempted to insult, and even gave up on your first appeal. You may have changed your opinion of how much you actually wanted to return, but the point that you gave up on your first appeal shows that in the first place, you weren't sorry enough to fight for it. As said before permanent bans are given for a reason which is why, in the end, they are permanent. If we were to revoke this punishment just for you, out of forgiveness, the term permanent ban would never hold it's true meaning.
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well, seems like the final nail in the coffin was nexus, considering he was the one who banned him. We await cortez's final words, umless anyone wants to vouch for kacey, this is decided.
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Here is what bugs me right now. I'm aware of his past history and odds are he won't be unbanned. (probably)
What really bugs me is, If we're not letting him have an unban, Then why did we let Snak come back to TTT, and probably some others that we had unbanned.
And looking at Snak, he was unbanned then banned again.
If we were lenient enough to let Snak back in, I'm quite sure the same should go unless we're changing standards again.
EDIT: I'm quite sure we unbanned some others in the past before only for them to screw up, I can't recall names though.
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Here is what bugs me right now. I'm aware of his past history and odds are he won't be unbanned. (probably)
What really bugs me is, If we're not letting him have an unban, Then why did we let Snak come back to TTT, and probably some others that we had unbanned.
And looking at Snak, he was unbanned then banned again.
If we were lenient enough to let Snak back in, I'm quite sure the same should go unless we're changing standards again.
I have no idea who Snak is (this was during my months long break), but was he banned twice like this? I mean, this is a pretty big case of rule abuse. Prove me if I'm wrong, but Kacey's reasons for the perma are pretty over the top if you ask me.
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I'm pretty sure Snak's ban had to do with complications w/ Wholegrain.
http://www.conjointgaming.com/forum/index.php?topic=8148.0
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I'm pretty sure Snak's ban had to do with complications w/ Wholegrain. "Pretty sure".
No. I have Pbanned Snak/Rebelmaster, kwaurtz has and two others I believe. Whole unbanned him almost every time.
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A permanent ban is something that isn't supposed to be taken lightly at all. Permanent bans should only be applied when the case is severe enough to an extent in which this type of ban is the most appropriate. Kacey, you have repeatedly prop-killed, even after warning, and done so numerous amounts of times. Many warnings were given and yet you continued to see how far you could take it under the impression that you were invincible. You had lied about what you done, attempted to insult, and even gave up on your first appeal. You may have changed your opinion of how much you actually wanted to return, but the point that you gave up on your first appeal shows that in the first place, you weren't sorry enough to fight for it. As said before permanent bans are given for a reason which is why, in the end, they are permanent. If we were to revoke this punishment just for you, out of forgiveness, the term permanent ban would never hold it's true meaning.
That being said, I don't think he has any chances of being unbanned.
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Guys, this is not about Snak, we've already had threads about that. If you need more information about it ask a CL on ventrillo or something. Don't post about it here, this is an appeal for Kacey and that's it.
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Wait, I permanently banned you.
What the hell?
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Doesn't really matter much in this instance who banned him.
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idk how he could have change that much in 1 month but for sure when he left he instantly come and told me to go killed myself and send me a nice picture of a dick cut in 2 pieces
and with all the trouble i had with him he doesnt deserve to be on our ttt server
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idk how he could have change that much in 1 month but for sure when he left he instantly come and told me to go killed myself and send me a nice picture of a dick cut in 2 pieces
and with all the trouble i had with him he doesnt deserve to be on our ttt server
XDXDXD I completely believe caboose on this one. Kacey, that's not cool. I don't think he deserves to be on our server, ever again. That's not maturity, that's called acting good in front of admins, but being a douche behind their backs. Exactly what he does on ttt.
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idk how he could have change that much in 1 month but for sure when he left he instantly come and told me to go killed myself and send me a nice picture of a dick cut in 2 pieces
and with all the trouble i had with him he doesnt deserve to be on our ttt server
XDXDXD I completely believe caboose on this one. Kacey, that's not cool. I don't think he deserves to be on our server, ever again. That's not maturity, that's called acting good in front of admins, but being a douche behind their backs. Exactly what he does on ttt.
Wait what... I did not do that. Those of you who know me know I do NOT joke about suicide. I did lend my friend my laptop and second steam account and I come to find out when I got it back over the weekend he got me banned from several Gmod and CSS servers and several of my friends complained of my laptop account sending things from /r/spacedicks.
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idk how he could have change that much in 1 month but for sure when he left he instantly come and told me to go killed myself and send me a nice picture of a dick cut in 2 pieces
and with all the trouble i had with him he doesnt deserve to be on our ttt server
XDXDXD I completely believe caboose on this one. Kacey, that's not cool. I don't think he deserves to be on our server, ever again. That's not maturity, that's called acting good in front of admins, but being a douche behind their backs. Exactly what he does on ttt.
Wait what... I did not do that. Those of you who know me know I do NOT joke about suicide. I did lend my friend my laptop and second steam account and I come to find out when I got it back over the weekend he got me banned from several Gmod and CSS servers and several of my friends complained of my laptop account sending things from /r/spacedicks.
"My friend did it"
I can't believe we've got all four of the unban food groups in here.
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idk how he could have change that much in 1 month but for sure when he left he instantly come and told me to go killed myself and send me a nice picture of a dick cut in 2 pieces
and with all the trouble i had with him he doesnt deserve to be on our ttt server
XDXDXD I completely believe caboose on this one. Kacey, that's not cool. I don't think he deserves to be on our server, ever again. That's not maturity, that's called acting good in front of admins, but being a douche behind their backs. Exactly what he does on ttt.
Wait what... I did not do that. Those of you who know me know I do NOT joke about suicide. I did lend my friend my laptop and second steam account and I come to find out when I got it back over the weekend he got me banned from several Gmod and CSS servers and several of my friends complained of my laptop account sending things from /r/spacedicks.
"My friend did it"
I can't believe we've got all four of the unban food groups in here.
I'm not saying my friend did it. I'm saying if it came from an account appearing to be me, that may have been it, but I didn't send anything of that sort to Caboose. I don't joke about suicide.
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I don't know if I can believe you... caboose is the only one coming forward that this happened... and you were pissed off at him for the first week ban...
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I don't know if I can believe you... caboose is the only one coming forward that this happened... and you were pissed off at him for the first week ban...
I believe him.
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I don't know if I can believe you... caboose is the only one coming forward that this happened... and you were pissed off at him for the first week ban...
I left that in the past.
I mean it when I say I don't tell people to kill themselves. My girlfriend struggles with self harm, as do several of my best friends. I didn't do that.
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Well seeing how you're not the most level headed guy when you're angry. You have used words like "****got" on the server, I would side with caboose. Its weird how your friend messaged caboose, a guy you have had problems in the past with.
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Well seeing how you're not the most level headed guy when you're angry. You have used words like "****got" on the server, I would side with caboose. Its weird how your friend messaged caboose, a guy you have had problems in the past with.
Again, I'm not saying it was necessarily my friend.
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I would not give your "friend" access to your account, especially if they might be sending people pictures of mutilated dicks and breaking rules on servers. Who's to say they wouldn't RDM on ttt?
Friend is in quotes because they definitely do not sound like your friend and I would advise against associating with them.
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Well, that was an interesting read to say the least. Now, as for Kacey's unban I say no.
1. A permaban is permanent, as in forever, as in not to be unbanned. I don't know why we unban those who have been permabanned, I think we need better regulations on this stuff.
2. Kacey being a repeat offender has prop killed many times, has posted threads saying he'll "change" and "stop prop killing". And you know what happens? He prop kills again.
3. He already posted a ban appeal on this particular perma ban, it was denied.
4. I don't care if it could have been your friend, you shouldn't be allowing people under you account name to tell Caboose (someone you've had problems with) to kill himself, and show him pictures of nasty nasty things.
5. I noticed while reading this people said "give him a second chance". Now I don't know if you remember the previous problems we've had with Kacey but he's already had second chances.
The Linkster hath spoken, and the Linkster votes no.
Dis is my opinion also
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It's May already and no new posts.
Has the jury reached a verdict?
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It's May already and no new posts.
Has the jury reached a verdict?
I'd say so.
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Hears the thing guys.
This perma argument has to stop. He was perma banned from a server not a CG wide perma ban which are two completely different things. Yes, it's a perma ban and no ones saying it becomes anything else. But a week ban is a week ban... and a day ban is a day ban.... Etc etc.
A ban is what it is unless it is contested. This is him contesting or asking for forgiveness about his ban.
So lets not argue if perma is perma and argue if HE as an individual has earned the right for an unban.
Alright?
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Sorry for not replying earlier. There really isn't anything left to be said, ban appeal denied, thread locked.