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CG Main => Debate Forum => Topic started by: arth987 on July 17, 2012, 09:42:22 PM
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So i don't know if I'm repeating a thread and I apologize if I am but anyway what is your opinion on marriage THIS IS NOT ABOUT GAY MARIAGE I simply am talking about if you think it's a broken system or if you like it and you plan on getting married one day? Also let me rephrase this is not debating about gay marriage but if you are gay and you want to get married feel free to share. DISCUSS!
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dont tie that knot or you better tie that rope tight
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Should not be considered religious in any way whatsoever.
I don't care where it originated, once the government has "adopted" it as the "official" way of two people joining together, (INB4 SEX), it should lose all religious backing.
You don't necessarily HAVE to be married at a church, I just think it seems nice if you can't pay for somewhere else. I would prefer not being married at a church myself.
Things like marriage are held too high in public opinion.
Here is my disorganized jumble of words from my mind :P
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Marriage is overrated. You tie yourself down along with your debts with someone else who is getting tied down who probably has debt up to their neck as well.. Wait until you're 40-ish..
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Idk I feel as if marriage is not broken and I would prefer a church wedding. A lot of people get married way to early but if I do find someone that I'm willing to settle down with ( cause I get so much of Dat ass ) then nothing will matter and of course I'll be a billionaire that sucessfully conjoined the DNA of a Pony and a bird and then a human and make a Pegasus.
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Arths posts always start off serious and end up making me laugh; but no I don't like marriage. It scares me for some reason, I feel like you could exist happily the same exact goddamn way with your spouse as your girlfriend your whole life.
We've made it some giant thing that we need to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on, the ring, the wedding, and everything. It almost makes people think you don't love someone enough if you won't marry them; and I don't know. I feel like it's a dying tradition that will continue to exist, just not as many people will take it seriously; as we've seen of the late century.
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it has nice tax benefits
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conjoined the DNA of a Pony and a bird and then a human and make a Pegasus.
I did not realize pegasus were also part human. That is creepy.
I don't see the point, if you want to be with someone you shouldn't need paperwork rings and money to do that. Just live with them. I also don't like the religious backing. They're alright, but they don't need to be public and you don't need to spend a shitload of money on them.
I will probably get married, but I don't plan on having a big wedding if I do.
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If I was to marry Tendovvi, people would claim that it was a false marriage and put me in jail.
Fuck the system.
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Plan on getting married one day, with my current GF. It is certainly not something to rush into, unless your 100% sure that you will be with the person forever. I have been to 4 weddings of people that are either a year older then me or a year or two younger then me, and I'd say that out of those weddings, only 2 will last. I think its absolutely nuts when people have been together for less then a year and get married, when they haven't even lived with each other at all. I just feel that this is the main reason why the divorce rate is sky high, people rush into it when they are not ready, and to be honest you need to live with your future spouse for at least a year to understand that you can get along with them when your come home to them.
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Plan on getting married one day, with my current GF. It is certainly not something to rush into, unless your 100% sure that you will be with the person forever. I have been to 4 weddings of people that are either a year older then me or a year or two younger then me, and I'd say that out of those weddings, only 2 will last. I think its absolutely nuts when people have been together for less then a year and get married, when they haven't even lived with each other at all. I just feel that this is the main reason why the divorce rate is sky high, people rush into it when they are not ready, and to be honest you need to live with your future spouse for at least a year to understand that you can get along with them when your come home to them.
bla bla bla that woman will never share the spiritual connection I share with you # <3 marry me? Bro fo life?
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Hey, Marrige could be ALOT worse. In various cultures it is socially acceptable to have an upwards of 4 wives. Divorce is very scarce if not totally void in some Muslim religions. And men can disclipline their wives for really no reason and women cant fight back.
Fun Fact: Buttsex is forbidden in Muslim cultures.
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Marriage is something that is a choice every human being makes on their own.
My view however is that marriage seems rather I dunno optimistic. Most marriages end up dying slowly trough the years, so if you wish to actually get married be sure that the person you are marrying is really a person you think you could stand to live with all the way until you die. Marriage is looked at completely wrongly now adays it is looked upon as a necesary step in a relationship that lasts for a while, however it is not marriage is suposed to be a one time thing and somethings you can't know if will last until you've spent a very long time with a person.
Dunno if that made sense because my brain is sligthly jumbled at this hour. Basically I would have to be very head over heels in love with a person for a very long time before I would even start considering it.
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People want to marry each other as a sign of trust.
Sometimes the one of the two, (slightly) forces him/her to go in this action.
Possibly causing a divorce sooner.
Consider marrying someone at the age of 30, my parents did that.
Don't ever force yourself or you pardner in marrying.
It's bound to go wrong.
Marry someone you are living together with for 5-10 years. To really know for sure that you'll be forever together.
Fuck this shit, this is gay as hell.
I feel like a woman now.
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I don't think this is really a debate. Your asking what we think about it.
But anyways,
I plan to get married anyways. No particular reason behind it other then I just do? Obviously I'm not going to date a girl for 3 Months and purpose. If i meet a girl I love and I'm sure about it and have dated her for a VERY long time and I think it's right, then that would be the time. I also want to have kids, and it's KIND OF easier to have kids when your married with tax's etc. There are some legal benefits.
Also no Offence but coreys point is sort of stupid. So your saying if the government decides to adopt Jesus as their artificial President it's not religions ( poor I example I know) The government adopting something doesn't make it nonreligious tbh. A Civil Union would be the non religious version or term to me.
And I don't consider it begin tied down. And I'm not marrying anyone with massive debt unless they sign something that would exempt me before hand. I won't have any debt as my University is being paid for by my parents :P
And Arth is correct. People get married way to early, which of course is what leads to the insane divorce rates. People are naive and stupid and think, "Oh well I'm never going to dislike her even tho I've only known her for 2 Months". And I to plan to be rich... at which time I will foil your plans and take MLP off air for EVER!
And Pillz I understand what you mean. But to me that shows you don't trust her. If shes someone your REALLY love and REALLY Trust why do you need to not marry her? I mean it's your personal decision but if your really trust her that shouldn't be the issue, why would you marry or have a gf you don't trust?
And yes their is tax befits and it's a social representation that you trust your partner. Nor do you need to spend 1000's of dollars even tho that too is also the social norm. Their isn't anything wrong with marriage it's whats wrong with people.
And I 100% Agree with OldCrow. People rush in FAR FAR to quick. Why would you marry someone you know lest then some of your acquaintances? Defiantly wait. Less then a year is yes to fast HOWEVER, it's SORT OF good to get married early if you plan on kids, and by early I mean in your 20's. If you meet the girl you love at 20 and marred at 25 the benefit to that is that your not 900 years old when your kid goes to collage.
The other problem with marriage is when people are married and they know the relationship is falling apart sometimes 1 partner refuses marriage consoling or they both just ignore that it's an option which pisses me off. You should always try to work things out. People rush in to marriage almost as fast as they rush into divorce.
And never marry someone you don't love or don't except to live the rest of your life with.
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Also no Offence but coreys point is sort of stupid. So your saying if the government decides to adopt Jesus as their artificial President it's not religions ( poor I example I know) The government adopting something doesn't make it nonreligious tbh. A Civil Union would be the non religious version or term to me.
There should be a division between church and the state, but marriage isn't really the same thing as adopting a dead guy as the president.
People have been getting married (in their cultures own sense, might not always be the traditional sense) sense before Greek times.
I really wasn't trying to make the point that if the government adopts it then it stops being religious, I'm saying it SHOULD be.
Of course not everything can be used effectively by the government from religion, like throwing stones at rape victims if they were in a city. Marriage is different though, since it didn't originate with Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Too many people defend it as a concept of religion when it isn't.
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Also no Offence but coreys point is sort of stupid. So your saying if the government decides to adopt Jesus as their artificial President it's not religions ( poor I example I know) The government adopting something doesn't make it nonreligious tbh. A Civil Union would be the non religious version or term to me.
There should be a division between church and the state, but marriage isn't really the same thing as adopting a dead guy as the president.
People have been getting married (in their cultures own sense, might not always be the traditional sense) sense before Greek times.
I really wasn't trying to make the point that if the government adopts it then it stops being religious, I'm saying it SHOULD
Of course not everything can be used effectively by the government from religion, like throwing stones at rape victims if they were in a city. Marriage is different though, since it didn't originate with Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Too many people defend it as a concept of religion when it isn't.
I just feel the two could be separated and that if the government adopts something does not give them the right to then own it. You give the government to much power and credit. So I disagree
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Honestly I really don't think you can have much of an opinion on the matter you are old enough to be married and is/was married. Marrage is a very complicated thing.
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Honestly I really don't think you can have much of an opinion on the matter you are old enough to be married and is/was married. Marrage is a very complicated thing.
Who? Me? Or everyone in CG?
Because your not of age doesn't mean you can't have an opinion of something (i'm 20 btw)
A long time ago you'd be married at 16... altho humans didn't live as long then either.
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Honestly I really don't think you can have much of an opinion on the matter you are old enough to be married and is/was married. Marrage is a very complicated thing.
Who? Me? Or everyone in CG?
Because your not of age doesn't mean you can't have an opinion of something (i'm 20 btw)
A long time ago you'd be married at 16... altho humans didn't live as long then either.
Everyone in CG, especially people that are younger than 20. What I meant was that it's easy for someone to have a misinformed opinion on something because of what they are exposed to (divorced parents and media in general) and that opinion might change when they have seriously considered marrage and its applications.
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I think marriage is such a silly idea; seeing how bastardized it's become. To me, it's just a title, and doesn't mean anything else. I would be happy if I had someone, but never married them, because I don't need a license or a piece of paper to tell me that I'm with the person I love.
When people marry and end up divorcing, it's just an issue. Legally, and with possession halving as well. That phrase "it's cheaper to keep her," I've been told several times by my parents, and because of it I think it is silly to marry at all. I don't want to have to deal with the stress of losing a partner on top of all of the lawyers, fees, negative opinions.. I rather it just be "here, you take this, I'll take that. Get the fuck out." Not months of struggle with legal crap for something I think should be absolutely private.
That's just how I feel on marriage. Just like, if you're going to date someone, do it for the long-run. If you're going to be with someone, why do you need something to say that you're together? It's just a title, a way to show off your ends (fancy weddings/expensive dress), and, to me, a cry for attention (oh, you're getting married?) and means nothing else.
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Honestly I really don't think you can have much of an opinion on the matter you are old enough to be married and is/was married. Marrage is a very complicated thing.
Who? Me? Or everyone in CG?
Because your not of age doesn't mean you can't have an opinion of something (i'm 20 btw)
A long time ago you'd be married at 16... altho humans didn't live as long then either.
Everyone in CG, especially people that are younger than 20. What I meant was that it's easy for someone to have a misinformed opinion on something because of what they are exposed to (divorced parents and media in general) and that opinion might change when they have seriously considered marrage and its applications.
Ohh I think I understand. So, we wouldn't want Cadaver getting married too young would we? trollface
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Too* Meme9
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Also no Offence but coreys point is sort of stupid. So your saying if the government decides to adopt Jesus as their artificial President it's not religions ( poor I example I know) The government adopting something doesn't make it nonreligious tbh. A Civil Union would be the non religious version or term to me.
There should be a division between church and the state, but marriage isn't really the same thing as adopting a dead guy as the president.
People have been getting married (in their cultures own sense, might not always be the traditional sense) sense before Greek times.
I really wasn't trying to make the point that if the government adopts it then it stops being religious, I'm saying it SHOULD
Of course not everything can be used effectively by the government from religion, like throwing stones at rape victims if they were in a city. Marriage is different though, since it didn't originate with Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Too many people defend it as a concept of religion when it isn't.
I just feel the two could be separated and that if the government adopts something does not give them the right to then own it. You give the government to much power and credit. So I disagree
What corey is talking about is separation of church and state and in America its subject to debate due to the misinformation that we are a Christian Nation. So what he is saying is Marriage as a religious practice and as a legal binding of two people shouldn't influence one another.
As for my opinion on marriage, I don't really have one. Although I do disagree with how socially standard it is here in the US.
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Eh, marriage may seem traditional or silly but as far as I see it it is the official way to show that you are going to have a successful family. Especially from an Orthodox Christain's point of view. The way God wanted us to be is marry, then have kids.
But that's why the divorce rate is higher than 50%. People can't be loyal anymore, and with all the drugs, alcohol, and religious debates in society it is constantly screwing up relationships.
Old Crow has his head set on straight. And what Waffuls said is true, you don't have to be married to someone just to show that your with your love. However, once an in unmarried couple have lasted and loved each other for their entire lifetime, come back to me.
Even if it's a dying tradition I plan on doing it as my parents, and their parents, my aunt and uncles, etc.
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My Latin teacher literally told us he got married because of the tax benefits.
I believe him.
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Eh, marriage may seem traditional or silly but as far as I see it it is the official way to show that you are going to have a successful family. Especially from an Orthodox Christain's point of view. The way God wanted us to be is marry, then have kids.
But that's why the divorce rate is higher than 50%. People can't be loyal anymore, and with all the drugs, alcohol, and religious debates in society it is constantly screwing up relationships.
Old Crow has his head set on straight. And what Waffuls said is true, you don't have to be married to someone just to show that your with your love. However, once an in unmarried couple have lasted and loved each other for their entire lifetime, come back to me.
Even if it's a dying tradition I plan on doing it as my parents, and their parents, my aunt and uncles, etc.
Religious debates, drugs and alcohol are what's causing divorce... O.o
That's a new one.
Also you reason for planing to marry is sort of poor. You are saying you will marry because your parents did, and your parents parents etc... So way back you parents had black slaves and before that etc. So by that logic you should get your self a nice slave. Mmmmm White Power /joking
I'm not going to marry because my parents did. "ITS MAIN STREAM SO I MUST"... no, I'm going to marry because "I" want to. And that's all it should be, your own personal choice, not another persons.
Seriously tho, I have nothing against religion but when people use it as an excuse for things without any logical backing besides religion for their reason they just sound ignorant and stupid.
The reason most relationships end from what I see is because of lack of communication. But meh.
Anyways I hope you don't think I was insulting you. I wasn't.
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Have we learnt NOTHING from the previous thread of topics round this area? Few of us here have the maturity to talk without bitching at each other... it's always going to happen.
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Could be a small percentage for divorce Inject. :P And your right, if I do marry I'll choose to. But it seems inherited to do so. Now the real choice is who I'm going to marry and when it's the right time... Hmm
No insult taken but I realize it's kind of impossible to put up a cure to a debate... Hey, it's a debate. It's un-curable!
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Could be a small percentage for divorce Inject. And your right, if I do marry I'll choose to. But it seems inherited to do so. Now the real choice is who I'm going to marry and when it's the right time... Hmm
No insult taken but I realize it's king of impossible to put up a cure to a debate... Hey, it's a debate. It's un-curable!
Just make sure it's what YOU want to do and not anybody else.
And yeah make sure your REALLY know your significant other before even thinking about marriage (don't marry early and contribute to the divorce rates). Although from what I've scene It seems to USUALLY be the males fault as to a relationship failure. I'm aware a lot of people may disagree with that, which is fine.
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Could be a small percentage for divorce Inject. And your right, if I do marry I'll choose to. But it seems inherited to do so. Now the real choice is who I'm going to marry and when it's the right time... Hmm
No insult taken but I realize it's king of impossible to put up a cure to a debate... Hey, it's a debate. It's un-curable!
Just make sure it's what YOU want to do and not anybody else.
And yeah make sure your REALLY know your significant other before even thinking about marriage (don't marry early and contribute to the divorce rates). Although from what I've scene It seems to USUALLY be the males fault as to a relationship failure. I'm aware a lot of people may disagree with that, which is fine.
Will do
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Even though i am still very young i can't decide if i would want to get married or not marriage is like a time bomb
waiting for the right moment to go off and blow up in your face the only thing is how will the effects of the explosion
effect you will it help you or will it hurt you there are many questions i have about marriage but most of all i hope to get
married and have a beautiful family and continue my family's name for centuries to come.