Conjoint Gaming [Game On]
CG Administration Section => Admin Department => Topic started by: Cadaver on May 01, 2011, 04:02:59 PM
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Ok. After the recent oversteps of some on here, I believe there is a need to show set consequences, for forum rule violations.
As this is an open community, I wish your input on the matter.
Here is a list of violations and consequences. Please advise which you think too harsh, or too soft, and why.
Yes, I will be pulling on the reigns a little bit, as people get carried away on just what the intentions are behind written type. No, the CLs/Head Admins have not pushed me to act. The actions of several here have...
Why am I doing this? Well, the obvious recent events, plus past ones, show there needs to be a uniform and clear response to people overstepping forum rules.
This way, no one can complain of favoritism, or being singled out.
So. Please be serious.
NOTE: CG WIDE BANS = Forums, gaming servers, and vent...
VIOLATION: AND CONSEQUENCE:
HACKING A long standing no-no, posts on “how to,†who you have, or who you will hack will result in an IMMEDIATE CG WIDE PERMABAN. This rule had been enforced long ago, and will now be back.
CYBER BULLYING/ PHYSICAL THREAT Due to the severity of this action, and the possibility of following through, LEGAL AUTHORITES WILL BE NOTIFIED, and a CG WIDE PERMABAN will ensue.
RAGE QUITTING If you are not mature enough to hold your temper, you do not belong here. Posting you are rage quitting is a CG WIDE PERMABAN.
PERSONAL ATTACKS No longer tolerated here. 1st Violation: 1 WEEK FORUM BAN. 2nd Violation: 2 WEEK CG WIDE BAN. 3rd Violation: CG WIDE PERMABAN.
GRIEFING on the Forum Same as Personal Attacks.
PORN /SEXUALLY EXPLICIT Due to the Forum Host’s hypersensitivity on this subject, any pictures,images, videos, and discussions considered Not Safe For Work, cannot be posted here. Pass through posts (linking to other sites) is also forbidden. 1ST Violation: 1 DAY FORUM BAN. 2nd Violation: 1 WEEK FORUM BAN. 3RD Violation: 2 WEEK CG WIDE BAN. 4th Violation: CG PERMABAN
SEXISM/RACISM NOT TOLERATED HERE: Same as Personal Attacks
ADVERTISING SPAM Do not advertise here for another Community or Clan, or use the Forum for any other form of advertising for profit. 1st Offense FORUM PERMABAN
PIRATED SOFTWARE / MUSIC Big no-no. Do not believe me? Look up "Troll Lawsuits." Due to the Trolling of Forums to find people to sue over illegal software, there will be no posting of it here, and no linking, or pass through posts. Consequences are same as Porn Posting.
ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES Any illegal activity posts must be solely on the values of whether, or not, illegality should be. Posting activities such as drug use, underage drinking, underage sex, pride posts on illegal acts you got away with, etc., are forbidden. Consequences are the same as Porn Posting.
MISUSE OF PRIVATE MESSAGING Using the private messaging service to grief, abuse, or personal attack will not be tolerated. In addition, using the service to advertise, in any manner, is prohibited. Consequences are these: Same as Personal Attack, or same as Advertising Spam.
Please Note: We had not wanted to go this route. However, due to the misguided belief the Forum can be used to post anything, these consequences will occur. Consider this announcement post as the initial warning.
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I'm okay with these.
Here's Heavy to show my support.
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(http://clarkcox.com/img/Im_ok_with_this.png)
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Sir ,yes Sir !
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Im ok with this sorta......
so we cant make fun of wholegrains cooking anymore......?
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Why are Placing pornographic images and links not as harsh then Personal attacks I mean its not like Porn links and images cant have are forums taken offline.
PORN /SEXUALLY EXPLICIT 1ST Violation: 1 DAY FORUM BAN.
PERSONAL ATTACKS 1st Violation: 1 WEEK FORUM BAN.
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Hmm. Valid point. They could. So, push it up to the same as personal attacks?
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Hmm. Valid point. They could. So, push it up to the same as personal attacks?
So what defines a personal attack? In a thread a few minutes ago I was being a smartass and said "You win the award for most educated opinion" and Cheezy replies with fuck you you cunt, etc, I mean yes I was being a dick but like- passive aggressively...
WE STILL GET FREEDOM OF OPINION RIGHT? D: As long as it's not encoded in FUCKYOUYOURMOTHERSASLUT- etc.
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Illegal activities- I always understood why it would be unwise to post stuff like drugs online for your own safety and whatnot, but what, would the forums get in trouble? Why can grasscity and other places host their marijuana forums on how to smoke and whatnot but we can't?
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i think cadaver is saying like bring drama on the forums like fuck you bitch non joking type way if you no what i mean.
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would talking about weed when its legal wherever you are be in the category of illegal activities?
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parrot cool
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Why is ragequiting a permaban?
*Ragequits* smug
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I Don't understand why a rage quit = full perma ban but I agree with the rest
Rage quiting is something that goes on here alot, and it is needed for many leaders to see their flaws, half of the shit that has happened to change leadership has been changed due to rage quiting by people who have a high status in CG.
Looks back towards own rage quit that made us start the long needed fight for HA and so forth. =P
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Also Theres two types of rage quitting.
1) You are pissed of so you cuss everyone out and leave
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2) Some one is making you angry so you leave to calm down. (Forums: Close the borwser. Vent: Close Ventrillo. Servers: Join a diffrent server or walk away till your calm.)
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I think it's meant more for the fuck you guys and your cat type of rage quits. Kinda like Ellie you know?
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So if we leave CG in rage, you retort by banning us?
I DONT WANT TO BE HERE EVER AGAIN. /LEAVES
FINE. /BAN
It's like we ensure they actually don't come back. Why is it a problem to begin with?
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Well Pillz, it is what I call, for full openness, the Ellie Rule. She raged, and quit. I then banned her. People complained. So, I unbanned her. She then proceeds to grief, be abusive, and threaten to have her friends hack attack CG. I then banned her again.
So. To prevent drama, and keep the person from acting even more foolish, I put that in.
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MISUSE OF PRIVATE MESSAGING Using the private messaging service to grief, abuse, or personal attack will not be tolerated. In addition, using the service to advertise, in any manner, is prohibited. Consequences are these: Same as Personal Attack, or same as Advertising Spam.
NOTE: I am adding this as I have reports of several people using pm to bypass the "No Personal Attacks" Rule.
IMHO, if you do this, you do not deserve to be a part of CG. If you do this, be comforted in the fact Cadaver will be actively campaigning for your full removal from CG.
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Also I think it goes with out saying be Respectful to everyone. Don't troll CG members. We can all have our fun and shit but come on were not children be kind to one another. Thanks.
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^ agree
It's ridiculous how many vendettas people have against each other here. Someone always hates someone else.
Also, some respect for the people who help out around here as well...
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^ agree
It's ridiculous how many vendettas people have against each other here. Someone always hates someone else.
Also, some respect for the people who help out around here as well...
Respect doesn't exist in CG. IMO. Or at least it doesn't feel like it. It did in SKG though, maybe because I was a trial/reg/head back then and actually respected my higher authorities, and disrespect got you the banhammer. Now it just seems like a free-for-all for the trolls.
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Also I think it goes with out saying be Respectful to everyone. Don't troll CG members. We can all have our fun and shit but come on were not children be kind to one another. Thanks.
Agreed. But, there is not a way to easily put that in the rules... Though people should do this on the net in general, and here specifically...
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^ agree
It's ridiculous how many vendettas people have against each other here. Someone always hates someone else.
Also, some respect for the people who help out around here as well...
Respect doesn't exist in CG. IMO. Or at least it doesn't feel like it. It did in SKG though, maybe because I was a trial/reg/head back then and actually respected my higher authorities, and disrespect got you the banhammer. Now it just seems like a free-for-all for the trolls.
Pillz, why do you think I am establishing these rules? So I can ban hammer appropriately, and minimize the trolls...
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Most of it happens in servers or very cleverly hidden in certain posts most of the time. Striking down hard and fast on slight offenses can prove to fix this problem but would lead to distaste by members of the community likely. (although not as much since Sir Kwaurtz is no longer here to whine)
Also, 4000th post mark :C
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^ agree
It's ridiculous how many vendettas people have against each other here. Someone always hates someone else.
Also, some respect for the people who help out around here as well...
Respect doesn't exist in CG. IMO. Or at least it doesn't feel like it. It did in SKG though, maybe because I was a trial/reg/head back then and actually respected my higher authorities, and disrespect got you the banhammer. Now it just seems like a free-for-all for the trolls.
Pillz, why do you think I am establishing these rules? So I can ban hammer appropriately, and minimize the trolls...
I think we tried rules like that when CG started, it was neat at first, then people just forgot about the rules as new people came in, and nobody gave a fuck. Idk. IMO when there's an "Abusive" leader in charge people quiver in their boots a bit more and listen, when the leader is more care-free, the community is.
So go for it I guess. People are going to stay the same probably, just work around the rules. Like me! We'd have to set up clear anti-antagonizing rules and whanot, etc.
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Dark, that is why I wanted input from the whole community, as I am not one to smack people down with the rules and banhammer. I want to remove the majority of the violations without becoming a forum (for lack of better term, Tennisballesser) nazi.
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Let's just turn into CvG. If you say my dog looks stupid we'll permaban you from everything ever.
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Will the person who got "Targeted" have any say on the ban etc. Because sometimes "in" humour can be seen as offensive or mean but really its just a long running joke for example.
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Hmm. No Pillz, I am actually trying to make sure that does not happen. Nor pay $10 and get your ban lifted...
Bjork, that is a valid point. Problem is, although the two who are "joking" around know it, many of those will not, and assume its, "ok" to personal attack.
Yes, I will use common sense and tact in all manner of forum moderating. That is what I can do.
Ok, 24 hours from now, and the thread is locked, and the final will be announced. 24 hours after announced, full enforcement will occur.
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is it me or does every known person that rage quits or gets banned threaten to hack or DDOS us...
if they seriously get mad for doing something wrong and getting punished for it then they're acting like 5 year old brats
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Yes, Blood, thus the permaban in that case... Why bother with people who cannot control their temper?
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Yes, Blood, thus the permaban in that case... Why bother with people who cannot control their temper?
Ah yes i see.
I agree with these rules then parrot
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is it me or does every known person that rage quits or gets banned threaten to hack or DDOS us...
if they seriously get mad for doing something wrong and getting punished for it then they're acting like 5 year old brats
Jorgen left, and quite a few others, who didn't hack us or do anything.
What if Jorgen was banned the second he made his leave post?
If threats are made to harm CG, or the such, then yes. Ban plx. But I don't think that would stop them.
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is it me or does every known person that rage quits or gets banned threaten to hack or DDOS us...
if they seriously get mad for doing something wrong and getting punished for it then they're acting like 5 year old brats
Jorgen left, and quite a few others, who didn't hack us or do anything.
What if Jorgen was banned the second he made his leave post?
If threats are made to harm CG, or the such, then yes. Ban plx. But I don't think that would stop them.
He didn't have so much as a "CG fucking sucks and so do you" leave I don't think.
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Hmm. Jorgen did not RAGE QUIT. Difference.
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Add 3 rules:
No having thoughts.
No typing allowed: EVER.
No breathing.
My input, really, is that people are stupid if the ethics you took 20 minutes out of your day (exaggeration) to write are not taught to them at the age of 8, at a dinner table.
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZiRT8Nwkk
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Sigh. Lenin Cat...
By the way, this is merely a list of rule violation with consequence. This is not a comprehensive list of the rules. It is forth coming...
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Hmm. Jorgen did not RAGE QUIT. Difference.
Ragequit is used so losely for simply leaving these days, who knew? I'm sure some anger was involved.. :p
Regardless, if someone cusses us out and leaves, shouldn't it be up to them if they want to come back and apologize some day? What do we gain from banning them? People make irrational decisions when they're angry, they might want to man up and apologize some day, preventing them from doing so and banning them everywhere isn't really doing anything.
I just want to know what the banning does, is it simply punishment?
He didn't have so much as a "CG fucking sucks and so do you" leave I don't think.
Actually it was kinda like that, he just did it kindly. More of a "Hay you're ugly by the way, but have a nice day kind sir". Wasn't he trying to fix problems in CG or something? By ragequitting? Idk.
My input, really, is that people are stupid if the ethics you took 20 minutes out of your day (exaggeration) to write are not taught to them at the age of 8, at a dinner table.
20 minutes might even be an understatement, I'm sure these rules are a result of watching the forums over a long period of time. Clearly people haven't been abiding by the rules... Anyway, these rules aren't really dinner table material, but most of them have been in the rules section for a while, and on top of that, I can recall at least 3 or 4 occasions where something similar to this, happened where someone wanted the rules to be enforced more, posted the rules, and was like LISTEN UP.
Nobody gave a fuck though, we're trying again harder now I suppose.