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Title: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Kwaurtz on February 08, 2011, 02:46:35 AM
Unless they are born in Africa and move to America, they are American, plain and simple. By delegating the term African American, you are perpetuating racism and segregation.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Scotty on February 08, 2011, 02:55:56 AM
its not a matter of really if their american or not they are "african american" people that prefer to be called "african american" than "black" because in some peoples straight opinion it is offensive and racist, "african american" is overall a much better term to use than "black"
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Kwaurtz on February 08, 2011, 02:59:02 AM
its not a matter of really if their american or not they are "african american" people that prefer to be called "african american" than "black" because in some peoples straight opinion it is offensive and racist, "african american" is overall a much better term to use than "black"
No, its not. Most of the people that I know will disagree with you because you are doing nothing but labeling them as something other then what they are, American. That sort of mentality is what keeps racism alive and thriving. Because we have to separately label one another. We are humans. I think using the term Black is better then using African American, but its still wrong. Ask Morgan Freeman: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s#)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Scotty on February 08, 2011, 03:06:32 AM
^the point made by morgan freemen their has absolutly nothing to do with any of this sorry but in that short video morgan freemen is trying to say that we are ALL people and we all deserve to be treated with equal dignity and respect and hes saying that NIETHER black or african american should be used and that we should just be referred to as people not black people not white people not african american people just people cause were all the same that is the point u are trying to make here kwaurtz and if not plz correct me thats just what i got from ur short video their.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Kwaurtz on February 08, 2011, 03:08:15 AM
I think using the term Black is better then using African American, but its still wrong.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Scotty on February 08, 2011, 03:19:46 AM
^right but i think u should change the subject to "whats morally right and wrong"?
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: crypto on February 08, 2011, 03:39:09 AM
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I think using the term Black is better then using African American, but its still wrong.
How the fuck is it wrong to call a black person black?

Biologically, there's no such thing as race, so they're equally offensive/inoffensive.

My skin is white. I have no problem with the term "white" as a simple descriptor.

Likewise, a person with black skin who whines about getting called "black" is a fucking moron.

It's a stupid argument.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Holy on February 08, 2011, 04:49:04 AM
Crypto is completely right.

Calling someone their skin color isn't racist as I am sure it is of no surprise to them that they are what they are, they see each other every morning in the mirror. Even stating that a race should be wiped out isn't racist. Saying a race is less superior to the white race is racist.

The real problem here is the whole white guilt trip thing going on here. Boo fucking hoo, black people picked cotton for 100 years under white people. So what. The jews built the pyramids for more than 1000 years. Want to know something even more fun? The Civil War wasn't about slavery at all.

Abraham Lincoln, acting president during the civil war, even quotes "I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

[ Look it up and check the sources: http://markii.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/racist-quote-by-abe-lincoln-happy-black-history-month/ (http://markii.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/racist-quote-by-abe-lincoln-happy-black-history-month/) ]

It's great how ignorant this country is to it's own history. Anyway, call them black, african american, negro, darky, whatever the hell you want to. If they are offended then laugh at how ignorant and brainwashed by the black history month program they are and remind them that picking cotton is nothing compared to lifting giant stone blocks. If you're not even black and you get offended or uncomfortable then I pity your existence.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Wholegrain on February 08, 2011, 06:02:59 AM
I keep it simple by refering to all white people as jim carey and all black people as morgan freeman

(a famous actor for every race)

not racist at all
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Boxman on February 08, 2011, 11:00:23 AM
How the fuck is it wrong to call a black person black?

Biologically, there's no such thing as race, so they're equally offensive/inoffensive.

My skin is white. I have no problem with the term "white" as a simple descriptor.

Likewise, a person with black skin who whines about getting called "black" is a fucking moron.

It's a stupid argument.
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Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Ghast on February 08, 2011, 11:52:54 AM
0/10

I refer to people by their sexual orientation.

e.g,

Hey man.

Hey flamer.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Blood on February 08, 2011, 12:44:09 PM
i think we're going to need someone black to answer this thread, also Wholegrain for the last time YOU ARE NOT EFFING BLACK
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Jorgen on February 08, 2011, 12:45:10 PM
i think we're going to need someone black to answer this thread, also Wholegrain for the last time YOU ARE NOT EFFING BLACK
YES HE IS!!!!
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: slimd1995 on February 08, 2011, 06:49:10 PM
If a white person described somebody as black, most black people would consider it racist. Those same black people will describe somebody as white all day long, and think nothing of it. It's bullshit, but that's just how it is.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Jorgen on February 08, 2011, 09:19:34 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX0HKUz7684#)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Scotty on February 08, 2011, 09:28:54 PM
i fucking lold
i lold too
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Boxman on February 08, 2011, 09:36:53 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX0HKUz7684#)derp
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af337/iReclaim/1296685363648.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Timmy on February 09, 2011, 12:10:51 AM
You always need more kool-aid.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GupaiWimL5c#)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Wholegrain on February 09, 2011, 12:35:15 AM
Where this thread is headed 
http://dagobah.net/flash/blackdudefalling_familyguy.swf (http://dagobah.net/flash/blackdudefalling_familyguy.swf)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: LeninCat on February 09, 2011, 12:36:04 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY#)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: U MAD??? on February 09, 2011, 01:20:26 AM
i call all my black friends black they dont care why should they i mean they are black their not an african american technically and i have had friends say they dont like bein called african americans cause they are not from that region its not really that hard to say someones black when its true also why would this be racist in any way at all?
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Kwaurtz on February 09, 2011, 01:22:09 AM
i call all my black friends black they dont care why should they i mean they are black their not an african american technically and i have had friends say they dont like bein called african americans cause they are not from that region its not really that hard to say someones black when its true also why would this be racist in any way at all?

Its hard to reply to a huge fucking sentence that is multiple thoughts.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: U MAD??? on February 09, 2011, 01:22:52 AM
i call all my black friends black they dont care why should they i mean they are black their not an african american technically and i have had friends say they dont like bein called african americans cause they are not from that region its not really that hard to say someones black when its true also why would this be racist in any way at all?

Its hard to reply to a huge fucking sentence that is multiple thoughts.
yeah my thought process isnt the best but works for me
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Ghast on February 09, 2011, 01:23:16 AM
i call all my black friends black they dont care why should they i mean they are black their not an african american technically and i have had friends say they dont like bein called african americans cause they are not from that region its not really that hard to say someones black when its true also why would this be racist in any way at all?

Fucking punctuation, god damnit.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: AlphaWeeaboo on February 09, 2011, 01:24:21 AM
Damn,
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: crypto on February 09, 2011, 01:47:04 AM
yeah my thought process isnt the best but works for me
Behold, Razer likens himself to an ape.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: U MAD??? on February 09, 2011, 01:50:38 AM
well i am hairy... 8) DEAL WITH IT
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Atom on February 09, 2011, 02:16:43 AM
I really dont think it matters, calling a black person black or african american is like calling a white person white or caucasion...
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Cadaver on February 09, 2011, 06:05:57 PM
This is borderline (some of the vids) but, as it is a legit discussion, I have allowed it.

My 2 cents:  Until the Government quits using race as a descriptor, a designation, and rewards benefits / removes benefits due to race, there will always be a forced notion that the "races" are different, or some are somehow superior, or somehow inferior.  This roadblock of universal rights must first be removed to allow all races to figure out the differences are completely outweighed by the similarities.   Then the unique differences (the amazingly strong silky black hair of an Asian girl, the sharp blue eyes of a Scandinavian, the bubble rear of a certain tribe of African.)
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Loken on February 09, 2011, 06:37:53 PM
XD I've known a handful of black people in my time, the ones that we're actually friendly were those really white black people that played video games and collectedc pokemon as a kid so I never got a good scope whether or not to call the black or african american, so I just stick with black
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: krolin on February 10, 2011, 12:30:45 AM
just out of curiosity does that mean it's offensive to call American people of Asian descent Asian? as far as i can see it's the same. Racism isn't fixed by changing terms or removing labels, the public needs to be educated.
Title: Re: Is it more offensive to use African American over Black?
Post by: Holy on February 10, 2011, 01:00:04 AM
just out of curiosity does that mean it's offensive to call American people of Asian descent Asian? as far as i can see it's the same. Racism isn't fixed by changing terms or removing labels, the public needs to be educated.

Well said.

What's annoying is when people ignorant to what racism really is tries to pretend like they know what they are talking about. There really is no opinion of what racism is. It's a word which has already been defined. The misconception comes from the morons who don't do their research and who tell other morons what they think the word means. The morons who listen to the ignorant brightly display their intelligence as well as spread it to other morons who will listen.
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